Talk:Henry Norris Russell

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Image loaded as of 2008-08-13 is not showing Russell but it is of Annie Jump Cannon. --xJaM (talk) 13:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC) added the asteroid named for him to list of honorsTham153 (talk) 17:50, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

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Why is there a list of publications under this section? They don't seem to be related to the claim that "Russell gave all the credit for discovering that the sun had a different chemical composition from Earth, to Cecilia Payne in his paper.[11]" In fact, this short list of publications should probably be moved to the upper section.

[11] does not refer to the mentioned Russel's paper, as one might think. So, what is the reference to this Russel's paper?

[11] refers to a book in which it is said this: "although he acknowledged her earlier contribution in his short 1929 paper, the credit is generally given to him, rather than to her." This hardly confirms that "Russell gave all the credit for discovering that the sun had a different chemical composition from Earth, to Cecilia Payne..." So, how exactly did Russel credit Cecilia Payne's work in his paper? Did he acknowledge his error when he did not accept her results? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SymmetricEn (talk • contribs) 17:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree. He should be accused of stealing ideas and the name of the phenomenon should be changed. This is an example of why we distrust the scientific community. Another is lotto Hahn and Elise Meitner. This kind of crap needs to be fixed. Glebovitz (talk) 15:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

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Payne-Gaposchkin

I just deleted these sentences from the lede: "Russell is generally credited for discovering that stars are made primarily of Hydrogen, disproving the previous prevailing view about the composition of stars. However, this discovery was actually first observed and presented by Cecilia Payne in her 1925 doctoral thesis, the findings of which Russell had initially rejected before subsequently concluding that she was right four years later." I pulled three textbooks off my shelf; two (Carroll & Ostlie, 2nd year undergrad textbook; and Bennett et al, 1st year textbook) attribute this discovery to Payne-Gaposchkin and none attribute it to Russell. I don't think we need to get into this in the lede, and it is covered appropriately in the context of Russell's 1929 work in the main body of the article, where it belongs. —Alex (Ashill | talk | contribs) 23:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)