Talk:Henry Perrine

Source verification requested

I have placed a 'verify source' tag on the statement that Henry Perrine helped with the Underground Railroad in Greenville, Illinois. Perrine lived in Ripley, Illinois, which is about 130 miles from Greenville, and I think there is a strong possibility of confusion, either with someone else named Perrine, or with his role. I would also note that Perrine later moved to Natchez, Mississippi, where he served as doctor to plantation owners. -- Donald Albury 15:10, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

References

I recently reworked the references to put them in a single section and to create links for Harvard style footnotes. If there is a better way to present them... There is a verification needed tag. The reference, Taylor 1985, lacks a page number and the ISBN given was not valid. It would be welcome if someone could locate the reference, verify the content and provide the page number. I also added a reference, Robinson 1942, that may have some additional information. As I work on the article I will be attempting to locate other references, in addition to attempting verification of those given. MrBill3 (talk) 03:23, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Ooops and thanks @Donald Albury:. I inserted the page needed tag at the wrong place. The page number was provided for Viele. I appreciate the work to keep the article in shape by providing an even better page number. The reference I need a page number for is Taylor 1985. Not going to put a tag on at this time, hopefully I can find the book. The ISBN was wrong on Taylor and I removed it, if I can't find the book and add the correct one I will replace it.

If using a Notes and a Bibliography section is preferable for ease of editing or if editors here think it works better. I can make the edits necessary if the consensus or primary editor opts for that.MrBill3 (talk) 15:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

That is going to be a bit harder to fix. I added that book as a source 11 years ago. The article was stubby and I wasn't using in-line citations at the time. I don't live near the library I found it in anymore, and my current local library does not have a copy. An inter-library loan might be possible, but would take a while, and I haven't decided it is worth the effort for a couple of sentences that already have three in-line citations. I have access to the other sources, so I'll look to see if the Taylor source can be dispensed with. - Donald Albury 18:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions across such a period of time with continued follow up. In my opinion the citation can stand based on your statement above. I am going to look for the book at my local libraries and stand a decent chance (Oakland Park, FL). So please don't start the ILIAD process, not worth the effort. I also would prefer to preserve the source/ref as you have said it has relevant content. If any challenge to content(or ref) is/was implied/inferred I withdraw all. Allow me to apologize and explain that I am pursuing an interest in history through editing WP. My efforts are to improve the encyclopedia while expanding my knowledge. I look up something I'm interested in on WP, do my best to figure out the references, verify them as possible and then add references with a fact or two each. Then if I can go through the references and develop the article as I can. If I can I visit the subject and take some photographs. I will now eat the trout I have slapped myself with and carry on. Best wishes and happy editing. MrBill3 (talk) 19:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

My personal standards for citing sources have tightened up a bit over the years. The Taylor source is a bit weak; it is like one of those county histories that were popular a century or more ago. It is primarily a collection of reminiscenses from long time residents, including one or two that I knew through my parents. I don't remember just what it was that I though was worth citing from the book, other than it must have been about Perrine. - Donald Albury 21:43, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

American expatriate in Mexico

He was an American expatriate in Mexico. As we use this term in Wikipedia this means a national of one country resident in another country. American expatriates in Mexico has as a sub-cat American ambassadors to Mexico. Other diplomats are obviously not ambassadors, but their being expatriates at least can be notable. If it is enough to justify categorizing by, than they go in this category. We could of course create a category Category:American diplomats in Mexico, to hold non-Ambassador American diplomats in Mexico. I am not sure we have any such categories, and I am not sure it is needed, but until we have such a category it is justified. His being US consul in Campeche is mentioned in the lead, which seems to indicate it is significant enough to him to be worth putting him in a category built around this fact.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

My mistake. I should have looked up the definition. I am surprised that the definition is that broad, but now I know. Donald Albury 19:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)