Talk:Herodian kingdom

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Remsense in topic Coin image

Ascalon

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The map should exclude Ascalon and its territories. Herod had built there but did not rule it. trespassers william (talk) 17:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree. That region is known as Paralia (Palestine). Oncenawhile (talk) 21:48, 6 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Later rulers and their legitimacy

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The article currently has this bit:

The later Herodian rulers Agrippa I and Agrippa II both had Hasmonean blood, as Agrippa I's father was Aristobulus IV, son of Herod by Mariamne I, but they were not direct male descendants, and thus not seen legitimate rulers by much of the Jewish population.

I question whether this is an accurate description.

Agrippa I seems to have been very much in control of his kingdom, whereas Agrippa II had the title of king alright and some special status at Jerusalem and the temple, but he did not have actual authority over Judea. He too, however, seems to have been quite popular, according to Josephus, at least until the break of the rebellion against Rome in 66.

--Bazuz (talk) 01:46, 1 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Doesn't the Judean kingdom of Herod Agrippa II also belong here?

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He was king, not tetrarch, unlike the other Herodians after Herod the Great. What was the official name of his realm? Arminden (talk) 16:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Probably no, Agrippa II was was actually a king, but rather ruling of territories outside of Judea. He was in fact king of the Kingdom of Chalcis, with certain rights in Jerusalem. Judea was a Roman province de jure and de facto at his time.GreyShark (dibra) 20:29, 28 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Coin image

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Samhanin, I like the vectorization you did, but would it be potentially unclear or misleading to simply describe it as a 'symbol' of the state, per se? — Remsense 04:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply