Talk:High Court of Justice
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bankruptcy etc
editThis court also deals with bankruptcy. Does anyone know which division it comes under?
- Teeny bit more complicated than that: its what is usually called the Companies Court (part of the Chancery Division) but can be heard in any County Court with insolvency jurisdiction. This is not jurisdictional and the rules make it clear that a court seized of a matter when insolvency becomes an issue may exercise its authority appropriately. Francis Davey 21:39, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Divisional Court redirects here, yet there is no mention of this in the article. I would add something, but my law text books are in storage somewhere, so I couldn't be certain what I added would be accurate. JonoP 12:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
The name of this court
editAccording to the Interpretation Act 1978:
“High Court” means—
- (a) in relation to England and Wales, Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice in England;
- (b) in relation to Northern Ireland, Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice in Northern Ireland.
So, is the correct name of this court "Her Majesty’s High Court of Justice in England" rather than "The High Court of Justice" (which is what the article begins with)? James500 (talk) 12:01, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- We use Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names); since most people think of it as "The High Court of Justice", that is what we call it. To use the full name would be overly complicated; we'd have to rename Permanent secretary to "Her Majesty's Permanent Under-Secretary of State for [insert department here]". Ironholds (talk) 06:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- "most people think of it as "The High Court of Justice""[citation needed] IMHO this assumption is reasonable only as far as people under the jurisdiction of this court are concerned. Apokrif (talk) 09:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, I'll rephrase. Law textbooks use "The High Court of Justice". The English High Court is the most reasonable to have at this location, because it is the best known. Google searching for The High Court of Justice brings up the English court first. Ironholds (talk) 10:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- "most people think of it as "The High Court of Justice""[citation needed] IMHO this assumption is reasonable only as far as people under the jurisdiction of this court are concerned. Apokrif (talk) 09:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
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Woring re Sir Morritt
editInstead of, "The first Chancellor (and the last Vice-Chancellor) is Sir Andrew Morritt," I wonder if it might not be better to say, "The last Vice-Chancellor was Sir Andrew Morritt, who is currently serving as the first Chancellor." It sounds odd (to my ear) to say, "The first X and Y is...." Just a thought.
kcylsnavS{screechharrass} 23:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
High Court's other hats?
editThe article mentions the High Court's district registries. I would like to clarify in the article that the 'main' High Court (on the Strand in the City Of Westminster, London) is itself a High Court district registry. Is that true? Thank you in advance. Bo99 (talk) 21:30, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- My view (WP:OR as a solicitor - someone might give you a properly sourced view) is that it is not a district registry. I'm pretty sure that "district registry" doesn't appear on any documentation used at the Strand. I think the "real" High Court is located in the Strand and the "district registries" are district registries of that court. It's not like the Crown Courts i.e. a network of equals with the Old Bailey having a kind of primus inter pares pre-eminence but really being London's Crown Court I could be wrong though. DeCausa (talk) 14:04, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Use of "district registry" as distinct from "RCJ" in this source supports my view. I think. DeCausa (talk) 14:27, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- to DeCausa: Thank you for those excellent thoughts.
- to DeCausa or anyone: Here's a very-arguably contrary source and super-rough original analysis: CPR Part 47 PD 4.1 provides, in grossest summary, that
- if a court wants costs to be assessed, then the venue for such assessment is usually that court, i.e. '(a)
- the [High Court] district registry or county court in which the case was'. That tends to imply, to me, that all the High Court cases in the RCJ building that are to have costs assessed are intended to be subsumed in such words,
- 'the [High Court] district registry ... in which the case was'; otherwise all such cost assessments would be thrown out of the RCJ High Court and into '(c) ... the Costs Office.' Bo99 (talk) 17:51, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- No, that actually demonstrates the exact opposite. The Senior Courts Cost Office is at the RCJ and covers the High Court I.e (c) applies. In any event, I've just remembered the High Court in the Strand is called the Central Office. See this for QBD which definitively answers the point. DeCausa (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, excellent. Thank you so much. My premise was factually wrong: i wrote in my posting above that
- if a court wants costs to be assessed, then the venue for such assessment is usually that court,
- but you, DeCausa, are very helpfully saying that factually that does not apply to the RCJ High Court, whose cases have their costs assessed not in such court but in the Costs Office.
- I will at some point consider adding to the article that the High Court in the RCJ is not itself a High Court district registry. Bo99 (talk) 20:26, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 14 October 2017
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. Necrothesp makes a good counter-argument. Jenks24 (talk) 12:17, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
High Court of Justice → High Court (England and Wales) – The name "the High Court of Justice" (as provided for by the Senior Courts Act 1981 (as amended by the Constitutional Reform Act 2005; originally entitled the Supreme Court Act 1981) (1981 c[hapter]. 54), s[ection]. 1 [1][2]) was changed by the Constitutional Reform Act 2005 (2005 c[hapter]. 4), s[ection]. 7[subsection](4), and the Court is now simply called "the High Court".[3][4] 87.102.116.36 (talk) 12:20, 14 October 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:11, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. In this case, natural disambiguation is better. To quote the article: "formerly called and still ceremonially self-styling itself the High Court of Justice". The name is still well-known and used. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:19, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.