Talk:Higher than the Sun
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Jenks24 in topic Requested move 24 February 2017
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Requested move 24 February 2017
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: no consensus that the Keane song is the primary topic. Jenks24 (talk) 06:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Higher Than the Sun → Higher Than the Sun (disambiguation)
- Higher Than the Sun (Keane song) → Higher Than the Sun
– WP:PTOPIC, mainly for being the only topic covered with an article. © Tbhotch™ (en-2.5). 22:01, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose the 1991 Primal Scream single charted at 40 in UK. The 2013 Keane single failed to chart except for in Belgium (where it charted behind the Natalia Druyts Eurovision song). Google Books describes "Higher than the Sun" as Primal Scream's "masterpiece" but otherwise search confirms that there is no one WP:PRIMARYTOPIC which has long-term encyclopedic significance over all other subjects combined In ictu oculi (talk) 09:34, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Primal Scream song is actually significantly more famous than the Keane song per se — if you told me that only one of the songs listed here had its own standalone article but made me guess which one, my guess would have been "Primal Scream, obviously". The fact that it currently just has a redirect to Screamadelica doesn't mean it couldn't have a standalone article, but just means nobody's put in the work to make it happen yet. (We do tend to be a bit worse about songs that predate the existence of Wikipedia than we are about songs that came out in the 2000s and 2010s, but that's not because there's an actual notability difference in principle — it's because editors tend to be lazier about working on topics that might require archival or microfilm research to source them properly than we are about topics where we can just toss in the URL of a current news story and walk away.) And when somebody finally does get the work done, we'll just have to move everything around again because Keane most certainly don't outrank Primal Scream in the "primary topic for this title" sweepstakes. Bearcat (talk) 19:40, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. Actually "than" should be lowercased in this title. According to MOS:CT, prepositions with four letters or fewer are not capitalized in composition titles. Compare Stranger than Fiction, Bigger than Jesus (album), Less than Perfect, Joseph, Better You than Me. Darkday (talk) 08:38, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support. This is the only subject of this title with an article, or more than mentions at any other article. At the very least, it should be moved to Higher than the Sun (song), removing the artist name per WP:SONGDAB, as we only include artist names when there are other articles on songs of the same title. Unless that changes, we need to follow our own guidelines.--Cúchullain t/c 18:02, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support. There is only one article currently on WP using the title, so no need for any qualifier. Station1 (talk) 20:06, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose — I can see some of those being developed into an article, then we'll need another RM to move this back. Laurdecl talk 04:01, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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