Talk:Highland Papua

English name

@Bluesatellite Is there an official English designation yet for this province? I see Reuters uses Highland Papua without -s. Farras (talk) 15:04, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm personally not sure either. This cabinet source used the "Central Highlands Papua" with "-s". For native speakers, which one is considered more natural? Bluesatellite (talk) 04:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

"Highland" without "-s" is the adjectival form btw, "highlands" is always a noun. — swarabakti^💬 09:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

According to Britannica, highland as a noun is usually in plural form (highlands), but the adjective form is singular. I will move the page, thank you guys for pointing out. Bluesatellite (talk) 10:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

It's already redirected, sigh. Bluesatellite (talk) 10:03, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Farras, Swarabakti, and Bluesatellite: Hello guys, isn't "Highlands Papua" the correct one? why is it moved to "Highland Papua"? "Highlands" and "Highland" had different meaning, the "Pegunungan if translated to English will become "Highlands" (Pegunungan) not "Highland" (Tanah Tinggi). (Harper Ken (talk) 17:53, 2 July 2022 (UTC))

Now the talk pages and the article have different names because of the redirects. The article itself is Highland Papua but the talkpage is Highlands Papua, but then there's still this talkpage. I dont know how to fix redirects but either way we should refrain from making any moves and redirects without discussion now to avoid making the article more a mess than it is now.

@Bluesatellite@Farras@Harper Ken@Swarabakti Nyanardsan (talk) 07:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@Nyanardsan: We won't make any mess if someone would love to learn English better. I left a discussion on his talk page, yet he did not want to give any single reply, I even offered to bring the discussion in Indonesian as what appeared on his user page that he speak Indonesian (or live in Indonesia (?)) so he could communicate better using his own native language. I mean let's be honest I didn't speak "perfect English", but Pegunungan in English is obviously "Highlands" not "Highland", it's like you tryna convince people that Satu in English isn't "One" but "Single" instead. What a joke. (Harper Ken (talk) 11:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC))

• CU note The account Harper Ken is a sock of a site-banned and globally locked LTA. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Or maybe the correct one is Highlands Papua. Because the neighbouring country of Papua New Guinea also has the Highlands Region, in refer to geographical name. Sjjkn (talk) 07:56, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

The Reuters uses “Highland Papua”. The Star uses “Central Highlands Papua”, which now I assume as “Highlands Papua”. The Diplomat and Indonesian local english news Tempo and The Jakarta Post use “Papua Highlands”. Sjjkn (talk) 08:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Just to confirm for later discussions (Though it's 5 months since last discussion). There's a difference between "Pegunungan Papua" (Papuan Mountains) and "Papua Pegunungan" (mountainous Papua). Though to clarify, Pegunungan could also be translated into Highlands so it could also be Papuan Highlands, considering that "Tanah Tinggi" isn't really used in Indonesia as it sounds like baby speak or old-fashioned language.

Okay, now we can compare the first form to Pegunungan Jayawijaya which is translated into English as Jayawijaya Mountains. From there we know that noun form in Indonesian is before the word, while adjectival form is after the word. The inverse is valid for English. So here from Indonesian "Papua Adjectival-form' it should be English Adjectival-form Papua. We know that adjectival form is singular or -ous, so it could be translated as Mountainous Papua or Highland Papua. Your Favorite Grammar Nazi (talk) 09:17, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Name?

Is the name already official? Some news reported that the name will be in accordance of tribal regions (Anim Ha, Meepago, Lapago) Nyanardsan (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the offical name is "Papua Pegunungan" [1][2] Bluesatellite (talk) 04:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Infobox images

Hello @Tacpahdza, I appreciate the edit. However, we have consensus quite sometimes ago not to put too many images on provincial infoboxes (I dont remember exactly where the link was but its there). Those images on infobox might better suits on regencies/cities article instead. Thank you Nyanardsan (talk) 15:32, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Feedback from New Page Review process

I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thanks for the article!.

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 13:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Province wasn't created on 30 June

The date of the creation of the province is incorrect. The establishment of this province was voted on 30 June, but the law was signet by the president and published on 25 July [3]. Moreover, according to Par. 8 of this law, the new province will be established "within 6 months after entered into force of this law". Aotearoa (talk) 07:03, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

• Dear New Zealand, I fully accept what you say, but the 30 June date is there provisionally. When we know the date on which the law comes (or came) into effect, I have made a note to update the entry for this and the other new provinces. Rif Winfield (talk) 09:01, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

• Flag of Highland Papua Province.png

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 04:06, 7 December 2022 (UTC)