Talk:Himeyuri students

Latest comment: 6 years ago by EditingTalk in topic Numbers?


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"[K]illed by the gas shell"? What gas was used on Okinawa?
—wwoods 15:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

The phrase "- propaganda spread by the military government of Imperial Japan." is quite POV in my opinion.
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gender of students

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I recall from a visit to the museum that all the students were female, yet the current text says "was a group of coed students". I suspect this is a garble.


Correct. The Himeyuri were all girls (just like the Shiraume and the other nurse corps). The boys were in other units. Additionally, there was no coed in those days in Japan, boys and girls were separated after elementary school. It should also be mentioned that the Himeyuri came from the most exclusive schools on Okinawa.

Also I'd like to add that gas wasn't really used on Okinawa, except maybe teargas. According to George Feiffer in "Tennozan", the Americans used phosphor grenades to ignite napalm, which would then burn and use up all oxygen in a cave. And looking at the reports from survivors among the Okinawan civilians there was a lot of propaganda by the IJA. A lot of people were forced or talked into committing suicide, that includes Himeyuri girls and others. The girls were even issued handgrenades (for suicide, not for combat, schoolgirls are no combat force, they would be of no use in the field). Pretty much every survivor will confirm the propaganda about being raped by the Americans (Americans were the devils in the military's propaganda). Just recently 110,000 Okinawans protested against the central government in Tokyo, because the ministry of education removed references to the murder of Okinawans and forcing people into suicide by the IJA from school textbooks.Takekaze (talk) 18:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

neutrality

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I feel this article aboslutely does not have a neutral point of view. To make statements like "but they were misled by their militaristic and propaganda filled education" and "Survivors committed suicide in various ways because of fears of systematic rape by US soldiers — propaganda spread by the military government of Imperial Japan" even with proper references would be problematic because so much of it is conjecture. To write these things without any references is simply wrong. I feel this page deserves a neutrality template and to be re-done. How do others feel?

Charles Jeffrey Danoff 01:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles Jeffrey Danoff (talkcontribs)

Numbers?

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Under the section entitled "Unit Dissolved" the article states that 237 of 240 were killed. Yet in the section entitled "Himeyuri Monument" it states that "many" of the survivors helped to construct the monument, and under "Himeyuri Peace Museum" it states that there were 90 survivors. The numbers simply don't add up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.91.188.7 (talk) 16:21, 13 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Original Japanese article says about only 136 direct deaths during Pacific war(let it be suicides or after US army attack). Those English version add ups include even deaths after war or even at year 2003, see. EditingTalk (talk) 03:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Contradiction in number of survivors

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The article states "Eventually, the death toll amounted to 237 out of 240."

It then later states "Many of those who survived helped build and continue to maintain the facilities."

How is it possible that "many" of the survivors did something when there were only 3 survivors?