Talk:Hippolyta

Origins

Someone PLEASE rewrite the "Origins" section. It makes no sense; nor can I see how it's related to this article.

I removed the following 'Origins' section, which makes no sense. It needs rewriting if it can be included.

When the sun is in the constellation of Aries, the constellation Andromeda sets. Andromeda, having an apparent long skirt, is considered in Greek mythology to be female. It also has three bright close stars forming a line, leading to the impression of a belt (as do the three in Orion). Girdle is another word for belt.

The full constellation appears to have something long attached to its upper body, and in the Greek myth of the Boast of Cassiopeia, this is identified as a chain. Other tales identify it as a sword (discarding parts of the chain from being part of the constellation), implying that the constellation is an Amazon warrior. The queen of the Amazons was given the name Hippolyte in Greek mythology.

Heading in the direction of the sun's transit moves next after Andromeda to the Pleiades, considered in Greek mythology to be the seven sisters. After Herakles obtained the girdle of Hippolyte, he had to face a band of women (more Amazons).

Death?!?

I ended up on this page after a link off of Artemis, saying that she killed Adonis in revenge(in some versions of the myth) against Aphrodite for killing Heppolyta, a favorite of the goddess. Now, it may be a mistype on the fault of the Artemis page...but nowhere in here is there mention of Artemis, or how Hippolyta died. If that could be added, I think it would improve the article. Irish♣Pearl 22:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Aphrodite was responsible for the death of Hippolytus, not Hippolyte. Does that help? Anarchangel23 (talk) 05:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Heppolyta is the daughter of a goddess so she will never die. She, who is the daughter of Hera, was murdered but not dead. She is always watching the Ladies of Amazon and her daughter, Diana.

Magic?

I was wondering if anyone knows-- why is it a magic girdle? powers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.106.198 (talk) 19:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Introduction Paragraphs

I think the introduction to the article is way too long. It seems the entire article is written where the introduction should be. If no one minds, I'd like to begin a re-write of this article. Thanks! BlackPearl14^{[talkies!•contribs!]} 04:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Shakespeare Character section ?

Why does this section "Shakespeare Character" exist rather than a just creating a section titled 'Cultural References' and including in it Hippolyta's appearances in the two plays along with any other significant cultural references to Hippolyta outside of Shakespeare? The purpose of this article is to provide information pertaining to the mythological-historical personage of Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons, not to discuss the portrayal of her character from a particular work of art or provide sociopolitical commentary about the cultural climate of Elizabethan England. Interesting as those topics may be, they don't belong in this article. As it stands now this section takes up nearly half of the entire content of the page, containing entire paragraphs that are either:

1) Paraphrasing the events of the play Midsummer Night's Dream:

  "Although Hippolyta figures only marginally through the middle of the play, she resumes a strong role in Act V, scene I. There she and Theseus discuss some preceding events, namely the magical romantic confusions that the Athenian 
   youths report from the night before. Theseus is skeptical about the veracity of their tale, but Hippolyta questions whether they would all have the same story if indeed, the night's adventures were imagined. She argues that the 
   youths' agreement on the way the night's events unfolded proves that things occurred just as they say."

2) Opinions about the characters and themes in Midsummer Night's Dream:

  "This play is significant in its portrayal of strong women"
  "Hippolyta, queen of a tribe of empowered women, stands up to Theseus and disagrees with him."

3) Commentary and opinions about the political climate of Elizabethan England:

  "In Elizabethan England, public and domestic authority rested upon the man and women were expected to be chaste and subservient, as expressed in The Taming of the Shrew."

4) Self-proclaimed feminist interpretations of Midsummer Night's Dream:

   "In a feminist analysis, Louis Montrose contends: 'The attitude toward the Amazons expressed in these Renaissance texts is a mixture of fascination and horror. Amazonian mythology seems symbolically to embody and to control a 
   collective anxiety about the power of a female not only to dominate or reject the male but to create and destroy him.'" 

Most of this content is blatantly opinion and none of it passes the Neutral Point of View (NPOV) policy of Wikipedia (much less Verifiability) or is even relevant to the article, which exists to provide information about Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons, not interpretations of the character Hippolyta or Midsummer Night's Dream. This entire section needs to be removed and replaced with a "Cultural References" section.FatalxError (talk) 18:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Classical Literature Sources

Someone should check the Classical Literature Sources section. The very first entry (Iliad 2. 649 ff) is incorrect: this is in the middle of the Catalogue of Ships, and neither Hippolyta nor her girdle are mentioned here. In fact, it seems that she is not mentioned in the Iliad at all. After a quick search I only found two mentions of the Amazons in the Iliad: 3.185 ff and 6.185 ff.

Hera's Disguise

lmao, I mean why would Hera interfere with a problem that she doesn't have? but atleast she helped though. 112.206.252.11 (talk) 07:06, 10 May 2023 (UTC)