Talk:History of Cameroon
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Cameroon(s)
editRecent edits have changed the name of the French colony to "French Cameroons" and the British one to "British Cameroons". It's my understanding that the plural form was only used because there were two Cameroon colonies. This means there was French Cameroon and British Cameroon, but two Cameroons in total. Not so? —BrianSmithson 20:09, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- I've seen all forms, almost as if the people involved weren't clear about singular/plural. See Cameroons for examples on postage stamps used only in the British part for instance. My best guess is that it originally referred to an aggregate of smaller tribal territories, and later there was an effort to standardize on the singular. Stan 20:23, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
My understanding is that, after the Great War, the British had the North and South Cameroons, so plural. The French had (East) Cameroun, singular. The plural language persisted past independence as the Anglophone and Francophone parts were federated, as West Cameroon and East Cameroon of the Republic of Cameroon/République de Cameroun. This lasted until 1975. Choose singular or plural as context indicates.
ChrisLit (talk) 00:45, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
History category
editCan someone explain why people are trying to remove Category:History by country? — BrianSmithson 16:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Have a look at that page. There is no point have Category:History of Cameroon and History of Cameroon both inside Category:History by country. This is especially important since the page is right on the border of having everything in 0ne page. If this makes sense can we please remove Category:History by country from this page. - SimonLyall 05:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. I see what you mean now. Yeah, the article should not be in both the parent category and the daughter category at the same time. Sorry for the misunderstanding. — BrianSmithson 16:58, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
1911
editWhat happened with the German and French in 1911? Map shows something but text has no mention. Rmhermen 15:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Colonialism
editI am again disputing the neutrality of Christchurch's additions. Of course the colonials felt that their efforts in Cameroon were doing good. But if we present only their opinions, with no mention of the native rebellions, the conquest by force, the use of forced labor, the taking of Cameroonian concubines, the destruction of native power structures . . . we have a very biased view of history. I've inserted a {{NPOV}} template until I have had a chance to add information on the problems the Germans and British caused. The French too, but Christchurch hasn't added anything positive about them. — BrianSmithson 22:36, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Merge?
editNo merge should be necessary. The article on Kamerun can very easily be expanded to discuss the colonial history under Germany. The fact that it's a stub now doesn't change the fact that it should be longer and its own article. — Brian (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Reunification of Cameroon
editShort article that doesn't really require a branch from the main History of Cameroon page. TKK bark ! 19:53, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Behemothing (talk) 20:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
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Treaty with the King and Chiefs of Cameroon (1850)
editI'm pasting material below that I just removed from the Early history section that seems to be a copypasta of the full text of the "Treaty with the King and Chiefs of Cameroon —Signed in the Cameroons Jiiocr, December 17, 1850". I removed it because it wasn't formatted or attributed according to WP:Manual of Style and it's way too long to include the entire text in this article anyway.
Treaty with the King and Chiefs of Cameroon
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Treaty with the King and Chiefs of Cameroon —Signed in the Cameroons Jiiocr, December 17, 1850 A Conference held this day on board Her Majesty’s steamer Jackal, Lieutenant Bediugfeld commanding, before John Beecroft, Esquire, Her Britannic Majesty’s Consul, agents and supercargoes of the different vessels, on the one part, and the King and Chiefs of Cameroons, on the other part. Abt. I. That all old palaver are considered to be settled up to this date, and cannot be again brought up, to the detriment of trade. II. That in the event of any misunderstanding between any agent or supercargo and the Kings or traders of the rivers, such agent or supercargo shall be at liberty to go ashore free of molestation, and with the Kings, Chiefs, and traders, settle peaceably any dispute. III. Any vessel arriving in the river for the purpose of trading shall pay the usual comey to the King or headman, at the beach where his cask-house is situated; and no other King, Chief, headman, or trader is entitled to demand, under any pretence, any other comey, custom, or tax whatever. IV. That after the usual payment of the King or headman for the use of the cask-house, if any agent or supercargo can prove that his cask-house has been illegally entered or broken into, and property stolen therefrom by any of the natives, the said King or headman bo held responsible for the loss. V. That any King or Chief attempting or threatening to stop the trade of any agent or supercargo, after the usual comey has been paid or tendered for the privilege of trading, such King, Chief, or trader be held responsible for such stoppage. YI. That any person acting as pilot shall receive as compensation the value of a crew’ for every 3 feet of the vessel's draught. VII. Whereas boats have been frequently stopped and taken from alongside ships, that any aggressions or depredations committed upon the property or persons of British subjects shall be satisfactorily adjusted by the Kings and Chiefs. VIII. That the regulations long-existing, made by the natives, respecting intentionally watering or fermenting oil, should still be force. IX. That as the practice of stopping canoes has been exceedingly detrimental to trade, for the future all disputes of the kind between the natives themselves shall be adjusted by the Kings and Chiefs assembled, their decision to be final; and under no pretence ■whatever shall any boat or canoe arriving from any place adjacent be molested or stopped, or her crew detained. X. That any servant, male or female, running from the town they belong to any other town, the King or headman of such town is bound to apprehend and send back such fugitive within 48 hours from the time of his being made acquainted with tho circumstance. XI. And be it further enacted, that for any breach of any one Article of this Treaty, the person or persons so offending to be liable to the penalty of 5 puncheons, equal to SO crews, of saleable palm-oil. XII. In the event of any offender attempting to evade the penalty, or committing himself as a trader, so that it should be considered necessary to prevent his trading, notice is to be given to each ship coming in the river, and the master or supercargo trading with such person after having received the above notice, to be liable to the penalty of 100 crews. Signed in our presence, this 17th day of December, 1850, on board Her Majesty’s steamer JacJcal> in the Cameroons river. Signed : JOHN BEECROFT, Her Britannic Majesty's Consul. NORMAN B. BEDINGFELD, Lieutenant Commander IIM's ship Jackal. W. H. ASHMALL, Resident Agent. DANL. McGOWAN, Resident Agent. EDWD. HAMILTON, Master, schooner Selina. THOS. HORTON JOHNSON, Baptist Mission. HENRY HARRIS, Master, brig Englishman. And counter signed : KING BELL, X KING ACQUA, H I’REES 0 BELL, X CHARLES DIDO, H PARROT ACQUA, M JOSS, H TUCCOTOO, M NED DIDO, M TIM ACQUA, M JOSS BELL, W SAM TORY, H FIRST TOM, H ANGUA ACQUA, H JIM QUAN, W YELLOW WILL, M EYO, M YOUNG KING, Xj |
I don't know anything about this topic, but it seems like it would make sense to include some coverage of the treaty in the article, but it should be cited to a reliable, secondary source, so we can give context to its significance based current and mainstream academic views. —PermStrump(talk) 23:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
text that does not parse
editremoving it here as it may be trying to say something significant, just not sure what: "(the Germans had discovered the 1912, wrote in an official report in 1919 that the population of Kamerun had increased significantly". It was in the colonization section. Elinruby (talk) 21:48, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Pre-colonial kingdoms missing.
editThere is no reference in the article to entities like Bamum, Bandjoun, Bafoussan, Bankim, Mankom, Banyangi, Douala or Mandara/Wandala. The article starts with the Paleolitic, then jumps into European colonisation. FelipeVO (talk) 12:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Second world war
editRead history And see what happend in the past 154.72.169.42 (talk) 13:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Second ww2
edithow the German fought France and the British 129.0.79.218 (talk) 14:17, 28 December 2023 (UTC)