Talk:History of Canadian currencies
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editIt should be sentence case like "History of Canadian currency" per WP:MOS. But should it be
- History of the Canadian currency
or
- History of Canadian currencies
? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Name of Article: Proposed Move
editThis article appears to have gone through a few iterations over the past decade. I think it started out as "Commemorative Canadian currency", which I think later got merged with "History of Canadian currency." Then, a few years ago it got changed to "History of the Canadian dollar", apparently for no other reason than someone thought it should be consistent with the article on the US dollar. The problem with that re-naming is that this article isn't just about the history of the Canadian dollar; it's a history of currency in Canada, starting with the indigenous peoples, going through New France, then the British colonial period, and finally Canada from 1867 onwards. I think it should be moved back to "History of Canadian currency". Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:38, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- What difference between the 2 currencies is there that makes these articles not deserve consistent article titles?? Georgia guy (talk) 16:15, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- First point: there's always two ways to resolve inconsistent article titles: to change article A to line up with article B, or change article B to line up with article A. You unilaterally changed a Canadian article to be consistent with the US article. Why didn't you change the US article to be consistent with the Canadian article? You gave no explanation for your choice of change, other than, I assume, "US is standard and others conform." Not NPOV, certainly without first seeking consensus. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Second: please read the article. Unlike the US article, the Canadian article is not about one currency only, contrary to your question, "What difference between the 2 currencies?" This article is about a wide range of currencies which have been used in Canada for over 500 years, since before European contact with indigenous peoples, up to the present day. It starts with currency used by indigenous people in Canada amongst themselves prior to the 1600s, and then with European traders, after contact. It talks about the different French currencies used in New France, from 1600 to 1760, including sols and piastres, local French colonial money and European French money, and Spanish dollars. It mentions the French playing card money, which was the first paper currency issued by a Western government. Then it talks about the use of the British pound, after 1760, and the development of local currencies by the BNA colonies, both local pounds and colonial dollars, and the tension between the colonies and the British government on that issue, which lasted from 1760 to 1867. All of those are Canadian currencies: they were used by the people and governments of what is now Canada, prior to 1867. But, it's only from 1867 onwards that the article discuss the Canadian dollar, which is the current Canadian currency. By contrast, the US article is bout one currency and one currency only, starting with US independence, and is all about the development of the US dollar since independence. It has no equivalent discussion of previous currencies used in the American colonies before July 4, 1776. It is more narrow in focus than the Canadian article, and that narrow title should not be imposed on the more general Canadian article. It's not an accurate indication of the content of the Canadian article.Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- Took me a while, but I finally got a round tuit. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Second: please read the article. Unlike the US article, the Canadian article is not about one currency only, contrary to your question, "What difference between the 2 currencies?" This article is about a wide range of currencies which have been used in Canada for over 500 years, since before European contact with indigenous peoples, up to the present day. It starts with currency used by indigenous people in Canada amongst themselves prior to the 1600s, and then with European traders, after contact. It talks about the different French currencies used in New France, from 1600 to 1760, including sols and piastres, local French colonial money and European French money, and Spanish dollars. It mentions the French playing card money, which was the first paper currency issued by a Western government. Then it talks about the use of the British pound, after 1760, and the development of local currencies by the BNA colonies, both local pounds and colonial dollars, and the tension between the colonies and the British government on that issue, which lasted from 1760 to 1867. All of those are Canadian currencies: they were used by the people and governments of what is now Canada, prior to 1867. But, it's only from 1867 onwards that the article discuss the Canadian dollar, which is the current Canadian currency. By contrast, the US article is bout one currency and one currency only, starting with US independence, and is all about the development of the US dollar since independence. It has no equivalent discussion of previous currencies used in the American colonies before July 4, 1776. It is more narrow in focus than the Canadian article, and that narrow title should not be imposed on the more general Canadian article. It's not an accurate indication of the content of the Canadian article.Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Article based on cut-and-paste from another source
editI've been working on this article and have discovered that a large part of it is simply copied from a web-page of the Royal Canadian Mint: https://www.mint.ca/store/dyn/PDFs/RollTimeline_e.pdf. That raises obvious concerns with copyright. I'm going to continue working on the article and will gradually re-write the material so that the content is kept, but it is no longer a copy of the Mint's document. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
- Done! Have extensively re-written the article and have eliminated all the direct cut-and-paste text from the Mint webpage. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:03, 10 July 2018 (UTC)