Talk:History of European exploration in Tibet

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Have moved article from History of exploration in Tibet to History of European exploration in Tibet: for NPOVness and world wide view. The article deals solely with European exploration in Tibet, and doesn't seem likely to be expanded to cover Tibetan, Chinese, Indian, or other "exploration" efforts in Tibet. --PalaceGuard008 11:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems to cover American exploratioon, though.Yaan 20:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, not olny European explorers are concerned, also Sarat Chandra Das, Ekai Kawaguchi, Lowell Thomas and William Rockhill can be counted. Next to that, not all Russians are Europeans, like in this article Buryats and Kalmyk people are not. So I reverted the title change. Davin (talk) 15:00, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, with Sarat Chandra Das and G. Tsybikov it was still European exploration, meaning it was organized by Europe-centered powers (both Britain and Russia had most of their land posessions outside Europe but it never made UK an Asian country, and neither was that the case with Russia). To add to that, Sarat Chandra Das and G. Tsybikov were British Empire's and Russian Empire's subjects respectively. What matters most is the source of their objective and methods, and this is why we count their travels as exploration at all. Dwelling too much on personal ethnic or geographical origins, we may end up with strange decisions in a variety of areas.

As for Ekai Kawaguchi, for me it was interesting to mention him (a person who firmly believed in UK as Japan's newly found ally) as an important link between emerged Russian presence in Lhasa and British taking of it. But I never meant to describe in this article any kind of more extended version of Japanese exploration of Tibet, of which around a dozen personalities need to be mentioned.

And of course Americans come together with Europeans just because they did have similar methods and objectives, as well as access to the same literature, as well as their own similar input into it afterwards. I would rather advocate renaming the article European and American exploration of Tibet if we consider it important to state that American explorers in this particular area are somehow different from European.

So basically, I suppose European Exploration was a good title to highlight the absence of such possible separate articles as Japanese exploration of Tibet, and maybe Chinese exploration of Tibet. --Tar-ba-gan (talk) 00:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I vote for European Exploration because the Asian and American explorers followed in the footsteps of the European explorers in large part in response to European expansionism.(CDSblair (talk) 13:12, 26 November 2009 (UTC))

In line with Tabargan "Western exploration" would be better. Currently, "European" is too small an indication. Davin (talk) 18:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Abbe Huc

How come there is no mention of Abbe Huc in the article? I guess Przewalsky didn't like him, but IMO that's no excuse to simply ignore the man. Yaan 20:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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