Talk:History of Louisiana

Slavery, Disenfranchisement, etc.

First of all, I've gone in and corrected the misspelling of "disenfranchisement" in about a dozen places. If I didn't know anything about the history of Louisiana, and I read this article, I would come away thinking that 80% of Louisiana's history revolved around slavery, and the social condition of black people in that state. What about the history of New Orleans, and the French, Spanish, etc.? The parts of the article that cover those periods seem so sparse, given the fact that the whole flavor of southern Louisiana is due to the early settlement by the French, and the subsequent government by the French and Spanish. There are several major periods of Louisiana history: the French period from about 1682 up to 1763; the Spanish period up to 1803; the Early U.S. period up to 1861; the War of 1861 and its aftermath, up to the 1870s; the period up to World War II; and the post World War II up to the present. You could tweak those however you like, but each has its own story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.192.207.49 (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have changed it back: enfranchisement is the extension of suffrage; "disfranchisement" is the preferred spelling in most of the scholarly literature for depriving people of the right to vote. Agree that more needs to be added on other parts of the state's history, but Louisiana's economy was based on slavery until after the Civil War,and agricultural labor remained based on African Americans until widespread mechanization. At an earlier period, the article had hardly anything about their history and culture. The French-Spanish history was also influential in creating a "third class", the free people of color who were more numerous in New Orleans than in most colonial cities.Parkwells (talk) 16:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I’ve just edited a couple of claims in the article that disfranchisement ended in 1960. Doesn’t sit well with continuing evidence of voter suppression against African Americans. Not my specialist subject: please would a competent editor clarify where indicated? Laski45 (talk) 08:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

There is again something missing!

I read about the French coming and settling, but I don't know why. --Irock67 (talk) 23:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps it was added: imperial, religious and commercial reasons - trade and profit.

Colonization - hopes of creating an empire, making profit, and prosyletizing.Parkwells (talk) 16:54, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Misinformation

The section Secession and the Civil War (1860–1865) contains serious errors as written. A main problem is that the entire 4th and 5th paragraphs do not have any references. There was a discussion of enfranchisement (franchise) and disenfranchisement and the use (in this instance) is strange to say the least. The reason is that "suffrage" was not a question at the time (from the Constitution of 1852; Title II, article 10) if a person was white, not a woman, not a "disenfranchised" person of color (exemptions were allowed from the Constitution of 1812), not in the military, and not a pauper, thus suffrage was allowed for all not exempted rendering the words Enfranchised elite whites' slanted. There were more than a few elite plantation owners, that were persons of color that owned slaves, that would not want slaves to be freed. If the term "enfranchised elite" is to be used (if they were elite they were certainly franchised), in the interest of NPOV, then "white" (although that would likely be a majority) needs to be omitted, the sentence rephrased, or references provided. There were powerful (elite) land owners, that were not white and had interest in slavery, that had the power to sway.

In the 5th paragraph the 1st sentence states, "The state was quickly defeated in the Civil War, a result of Union strategy to cut the Confederacy in two by seizing the Mississippi.". While it is true there was a plan to take the Mississippi this was not "quickly" realized, as Vicksburg did not fall (control of the Mississippi) until July 4, 1863. Taking New Orleans and the area of southeastern Louisiana in no way can be considered to be the "defeating" of the whole state. Union thrusts west and northwest, outside the controlled area, met with historically depicted catastrophic consequences. Wikipedia needs to reflect historical accuracy. Otr500 (talk) 15:16, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Timeline of Louisiana

Any interest in creating a Timeline of Louisiana article? A few other U.S. states have timelines (see Category:Timelines of states of the United States). Here are some sources:

• Benson John Lossing, ed. (1905). "United States: Louisiana (chronology)". Harper's Encyclopedia of United States History. Vol. 9. Harper & Bros. – via HathiTrust. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)
• Federal Writers' Project (1941). "Chronology". Louisiana: a Guide to the State. American Guide Series. NY: Hastings House. pp. 693–703. {{cite book}}: External link in |chapterurl= (help); Unknown parameter |chapterurl= ignored (|chapter-url= suggested) (help)

-- M2545 (talk) 06:22, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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Bizarre opening

• The territory of Louisiana roughly 10,000 years ago; first traces of permanent settlement, ushering in the Archaic period, appear at about 5,500 years ago (Mound Builders).

Need I say more? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:23, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

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