Talk:History of Soviet Russia and the Soviet Union (1917–1927)

This article started as History of the Soviet Union and early comments (2001 to mid-2003) can be found at:

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Missing content and neutrality

There is no mention of Dekulakization, the Red Terror, Lenin's Hanging Order, Trotsky creating the apparatus for Stalinist repression, or the westward offensives. The opening paragraph states that the Soviets achieved harmony between all countries. There is an overly defensive portrayal of Marx's "dictatorship of the proletariat." The failures of collective farming are attributed to "peasant sabotage" and repeatedly minimized as "minor shortages." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.179.199.111 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

I checked to see if these items have been since fixed. Red Terror is linked from History of Soviet Russia and the Soviet Union (1917–1927)#Russian Civil War. It covers Vladimir Lenin's Hanging Order, but I added a link to the hanging order from Dekulakization and then linked to that article from this one. The article no longer mentions harmony, peasant sabotage, or minor shortages. I searched through all mentions of "proletariat" and didn't find any biased context. I added some text summarizing bits of Leon Trotsky since he seems like a major figure. I'm not sure what is meant by "westward offensives"; is this covered by Polish–Soviet War? -- Beland (talk) 19:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Neutrality

After reading over a good deal of the Soviet History article, I would also have to dispute the neutrality, especially the early Bolshevik period section, it strikes me as having a view of the regime that is too favorable to be neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.221.114 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

I agree with this. There is nothing mentioned about the elimination of the Kulaks as a class for example.156.109.18.2 (talk) 16:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

The article now briefly describes the Red Terror and Dekulakization. -- Beland (talk) 19:17, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

After reading the Early Soviet History article, it struck me as being extremely biased against the early Soviet state. Using phrases like "awkward problem" and "[sic] full dictatorship power" is inherently biased and more suited to argumentative writing than a piece of writing presenting the facts; it is also unprofessional and makes it sound like an 8th grader taking standard US history wrote this. Furthermore, the intro mentions the Civil War and the death of Lenin, but doesn't actually mention any of the history of the USSR under Lenin. This was a deeply transformative time for the USSR and not even indicating that it happened in the summary that represents all of what most people will read seems like nothing but a cheap attempt to obscure what really happened. On another note, claiming that the RCP/CCCP took dictatorial control is also false; not only did it replace an already existing dictatorship, but throughout the 20's elections were held regularly.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.13.18 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

The issue about dictatorship seems to have been cleaned up, but I also found "awkward problem" confusing and not an encyclopedic tone, and the intro could indeed be a better summary of the article. Help is needed from someone who is familiar with or who is willing to learn about this topic. -- Beland (talk) 19:19, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Civil war section shortcomings

I'd also like to point out that the section on the civil war actually says very little and a broader summary of events seems more appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.44.117 (talk) 23:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

It's since been expanded, though it might benefit from a sync up with the intro of Russian Civil War in both directions. -- Beland (talk) 19:15, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Spelling of Czar, Tsar

Throughout the Russian history articles in English, Tsar is spelt in many different ways. It would be nice if there was only one - I would say Tsar. Maxdf (talk) 15:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

This seems to have since happened, with the exception of quotes and redirects and proper nouns and the word used in non-Russian contexts. -- Beland (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Was the NEP final or rather provisional solution?

Xx236 (talk) 13:11, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@Xx236: New Economic Policy currently says it was intended to be temporary. -- Beland (talk) 04:20, 3 March 2022 (UTC)