Talk:Hitlers Bombe

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Unless this has been released in English yet, shouldn't the page title be Hitlers Bombe rather than the Anglicized version? --Fastfission 19:59, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

I removed the "reactions" section because I found it pretty dubious -- which press? German press or U.S.? I haven't seen too many people even talk about it in the U.S. press besides a few "ooh wow" articles, in part because it hasn't been translated yet. If it has been different in the German press, that would be very interesting, but it should be specifically cited as such. --Fastfission 20:09, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Heinkel He 177, Hitler and the bomb?

German article for Heinkel He 177 says

"Eine im Mai 1945 auf dem Flugplatz Prag-Kbély von den Alliierten vorgefundene, noch im Umbau befindliche He 177 erwies sich als Versuchsflugzeug für den vergrößerten Bombenschacht des geplanten, aber noch nicht fertig gestellten ersten deutschen Atombomben-Trägerflugzeugs (die entsprechende Bombe dazu kam jedoch in Deutschland bis zur Kapitulation im Gegensatz zu den USA nicht über das Planungsstadium hinaus)."

that in May 1945 at Prague-Kbély a He 177 was found which had an enlarged bomb door to test this part of the planned airplane that should carry Hitlers Bombe which was in planning stage, too. No reference provided, though. [1] -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       19:51, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Soil samples

It's not true that the soil samples turned out negative. They showed a clear rise of radiation levels towards all anecdotally reported explosion sites that Karsch researched, not only at Ohrdruf but also in relation to Trinks's exploded experimental reactor in Berlin, which suggests that Trinks was indeed successfull in initiating a nuclear chain reaction in 1942. The final report read that the radiation levels were definitely not due to Chernobyl and that further tests were necessary to exclude any other possibilities than Nazi Germany's nuclear weapons program. The media then widely reported that as an "inconslusive" test and that the radiation *WOULD* be due to Chernobyl, and Karscht lost all funding for any further experiments due to the tendentious mudslinging in the media. The SPIEGEL published a slanderous one-page article about nutty Nazi lunatics as the only people who could be interested in this kind of research, but in the concluding last sentence wrote that the soil tests were "interesting" and further research was needed, "but nobody is gonna give any more money to ridiculous clowns intending to prove farcical claims of racial Germanic superiority". Which had nothing to do with Karscht's book or background.

The entire "dirty bomb" references in the article are unncessary. Karscht only discusses the "dirty bomb" possibility in the preface and quickly rules it out. He clearly describes his thesis that the exakt weapon several Nazi scientists groups were evidently working on was a small, tactical thermonuclear fusion design based upon shaped charge, which is exactly the design successfully tested by the US in 1954 in Castle Union, as part of Operation Castle. Most people only think of a large-scale Hiroshima fission bomb when they hear nuclear bomb, but the design that Nazi scientists were evidently working on was much smaller and cost-effective, you only need a better understanding of theoretical nuclear physics in order to bypass the large and expensive Hiroshima fission bomb and start right at a small-scale thermonuclear fusion bomb. In 1949 Erich Schumann, who prior to 1945 had been one of the leading German scientists working on the nuclear bomb, turned in a script for publication on these Nazi German experiments which described in detail the thermonuclear design of the German nuclear bomb as well as all the basics also of the hydrogen bomb, at a time when all this was still highly classified knowledge that American and Soviet scientists were working out, but he was denied publication because of the Occupation statute (which also regulated all military scientific publications) that would last up until 1955. The only controversy is whether Nazi Germany actually tested its thermonuclear design or not, but it's clear from the documented evidence that they definitely weren't working on dirty bombs. --87.180.222.141 (talk) 14:41, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Hmmmm. So the Nazis managed to build a thermonuclear device without a fission stage. This may be a surprise to a lot of nuclear physicists. According to Pure fusion weapon, this is currently an undiscovered technology. No conventional explosive I know of, shaped or not, can provide the necessary pressure/temperature needed to spark fusion. "...you only need a better understanding of theoretical nuclear physics in order to bypass the large and expensive Hiroshima fission bomb and start right at a small-scale thermonuclear fusion bomb." seems to be unusually nonchalant, not to speak of condescending, under the circumstances; you'll need a hell of a lot more than better theoretical nuclear physics. I think I'd class this as requiring some extraordinary evidence. SkoreKeep (talk) 20:41, 27 June 2015 (UTC)