Talk:Ho-Chunk

Latest comment: 6 years ago by 144.92.192.126 in topic Stinkards? Stinking water?

Merger

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I feel that the article Ho-Chunk Casino should be merged with Ho-Chunk as their is very little information pertaining to the casino and therefore, I do not feel that it is substantial enough to stand alone. T. White 09:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

No. It warrants it's own article. -- Al™ 15:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Why? --Miskwito 03:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)Reply
The Ho-Chunk Casino is not the same as the Ho-Chunks. Don't merge, but expand the Casino article. I suspect it will always be short — when compared to Caesars Palace article — but the current Casino article falls way short and needs some beefing-up. CJLippert 01:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Yes it should be merged. There is only one sentence on the page. Flaflafooey 01:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Merge asap.--Tainter 22:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Against. The Ho-Chunk Casino is specifically notable as an economic institution in Wisconsin. The Ho-Chunk are a people with their own identity extending beyond the casino. Each is uniquely notable and requires their own article. In this case it is not so much the case of quantity of information, but notability of the subject. – Freechild (BoomCha) 21:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Rock of Mystery

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I figure this is the place to ask... Could someone check Ho chunk rock of mystery? It looks like nonsense to me, but I could be wrong. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 23:14, 1 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

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I modified the Winnebago Tribe of Nebraska external website a little,so it would more clearer that there are 2 websites for the 2 Ho-Chunk/Winnebago nation.Thank you-RFD 17:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Stinkards? Stinking water?

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Was there any reason for these refrences to thier odor? Did the engage in some ritual or coat thier bodies in something with an unpleasant smell? Or is this just a fun way for thier rivals to insult them? Eno-Etile 02:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

In the Ojibwe language the term wiinibiigoo means "those of stagnant waters", which often refers to a bayou that can be quite smelly. However, these stagnant waters were quite important to not only the Ho-chunks but also to the Menomini and others because of Wild rice growth patterns. Green Bay, Wisconsin on older French maps was called "Baie des Puants" after the Ho-chunks and other areas with similar names are Lake Winnibigoshish, Lake Winnipeg and Lake Winnipegosis. CJLippert 01:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)Reply
Shouldn't the translation be 'smelly water' rather than 'stinking'? If it's not supposed to carry negative connotations? DavidFarmbrough (talk) 15:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
From Ojibwe Wiinibiigoo (“Winnebago person”), from wiinibiig (“murky water”) (of Lake Winnipeg), from wiini’ (“to make someone dirty”), wiinad (“it is dirty”), plus nibi (“water”), plural nibig (“waters”). https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Winnebago--Manfariel (talk) 02:21, 6 May 2018 (UTC)Reply
The "Stinkard" thing is a strange misconception. "Pwan" or "bwan" is literally Ojibwe for "Sioux" or "enemy," which is what Ojibwe-related folks called Sioux-related folks. Ho-Chunk (formerly Winnebago) people speak a so-called "Siouan" language. Baie des Puants means Bay of the Sioux, not Smelly Bay ;) Ah well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.192.126 (talk) 21:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Joba Chamberlain

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Should Joba Chamberlain (the incredibly highly touted pitching prospect for the Yankees) be included in Famous Ho-Chunk people?

Image?

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I'm thinking that a little girl in a leopard suit may not be the best representation of the Ho-Chunk that we can find. I'd like to choose a more encyclopedic image. Does anyone agree? Somnambulent (talk) 19:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

I agree what about using an image of a traditional Winnebago dance instead? I believe that it is more culturally relative. Greenturtle09 (talk) 02:10, 13 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment

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Good basic start but really a stub[....]Needs expansion, language article is Winnebago language --Skookum1, 12 May 2006
  • Has improved since Skookum's assesment last May. Now has more references, and more fleshed-out sections. It's got a ways to go, but it doesn't qualify as a stub anymore --Miskwito 00:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Last edited at 00:26, 3 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 18:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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