This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourcedmust be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourcedmust be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Climate change, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Climate change on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Climate changeWikipedia:WikiProject Climate changeTemplate:WikiProject Climate changeClimate change articles
This article is part of WikiProject Vietnam, an attempt to create a comprehensive, neutral, and accurate representation of Vietnam on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.VietnamWikipedia:WikiProject VietnamTemplate:WikiProject VietnamVietnam articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WomenWikipedia:WikiProject WomenTemplate:WikiProject WomenWikiProject Women articles
A fact from Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 December 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Latest comment: 8 months ago13 comments5 people in discussion
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
@Chidgk1: New enough and long enough. QPQ present. I think the article needs more prose work as it is awkward in places like you might expect from a translation (three examples below). I am looking at this article and finding the hook uninteresting because it begs the question "how" or "why". More information about Hồng's body of environmental work/activism would really help this hook. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:16, 7 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
"a dynamic local non-profit organization" seems you translated a WP:WEASEL word there
Ms. Hồng we don't use "Ms." and "Mr." in this context
about the arrest of a well-known environmental campaigner in Vietnam We know who this is; why does this text dance around it?
Hmm... The structure of the article makes a good hook hard because there's things that would be BLP vios in a hook and things that would be really puffy. Maybe maybe... I can't verify this as a hook as the source is in Vietnamese. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
ALT1: ... that environmental activist Hoàng Thị Minh Hồng was the first Vietnamese person to set foot in Antarctica?
@Sammi Brie: I don't have any Vietnamese either. I have added a little more about Hồng's body of environmental work/activism as you suggested. How about
No wonder I missed it, it was a ping without a timestamp. I am...not happy with the way this article reads still. It's just not Main Page-ready, even if one of the hooks (I prefer ALT1) is workable. It needs a copyedit, preferably from someone familiar with the Vietnamese original. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am...still chewing. The prose is fine. But the hook fact is the next concern. I'm going to leave this for someone else to see if ALT1 in particular is workable. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
ALT1 and ALT2 short enough, cited, and interesting, although I prefer ALT2. I will say that as written, this article would deserve {{prose}}, which would disqualify the nomination. Please convert the Reactions section to prose before I approve this.--Launchballer14:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 10 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
If anyone speaks Vietnamese could you possibly look back in the wayback machine and see whether it was in the newspaper cited at that time - perhaps the newspaper later removed it from their website? Or can you find another cite? If so please could you put back in the text about it I deleted today and cite it thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 09:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
If you really want to request deletion I can tell you the procedure - but I think you would be wasting your time as everyone else would want to keep it.