Talk:Hobart City Centre

Requested move 24 March 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) NW1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 15:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

---

Hobart City Centre → Hobart central business district – Similar to Melbourne central business district which was moved late last year, a similar google trend [1] shows that "Hobart CBD" clearly gets more results than "Hobart City Centre" and "Hobart City Center". A search result from the ABC also has clearly more hits for "CBD" – and the most recent result was in 2015. Therefore, per WP:COMMONNAME, Hobart central business district is clearly the more common name. SHB2000 (talk) 12:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom; I would expect CBD to be the terminology used, and don't see any sign it is called "Hobart City Centre" anywhere other than Wikipedia. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

• comment - looks like you have disinterest on your side - https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=Talk:Hobart_City_Centre - even the project page - https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-90&pages=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tasmania -

• Oppose - Tasmania is hardly comparable to Melbourne for many reasons, they actually do have the tendency to refer to their city centre as such over time there has been a pervasive usage by the locals: -

Hobart City centre, Tasmanian Travel & Information Centre, 2007, retrieved 27 March 2022

heheh it is not straight forward - from 1960 whatsmore - Photographs - Hobart - People - People in the Central Business Area of Hobart City Centre, Libraries Tasmania, 1960, retrieved 27 March 2022

Map - Hobart 62 - Plan of Hobart Town City Centre - surveyor John Thomas (Field Book 943), Libraries Tasmania, 1859, retrieved 27 March 2022

Singh, Lisa Maria (1996), Incivilities in the Hobart city centre, retrieved 27 March 2022

Hobart (Tas.). Council; Art Deco Society (2002), Art deco : a walking guide through the city centre in Hobart, Hobart City Council, retrieved 27 March 2022

Hobart (Tas.). Council (issuing body.); Hobart Chamber of Commerce (issuing body.) (2012), Explore Hobart's city centre : map and store directory, [Hobart, Tas.] Hobart City Council, retrieved 27 March 2022

Hobart (Tas.). Council (1989), City centre pedestrian study, September 1989, City of Hobart, retrieved 27 March 2022

"BRILLIANT AVENUES OF LIGHT TO GREET THE QUEEN IN HOBARTS CITY CENTRE". The Mercury. Vol. CLXXIV, , no. 25, 917. Tasmania, Australia. 16 January 1954. p. 8. Retrieved 27 March 2022 – via National Library of Australia.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

"Mt Nelson College threatened". Tribune. No. 2115. New South Wales, Australia. 10 October 1979. p. 3. Retrieved 27 March 2022 – via National Library of Australia.

"PROTESTS SPREAD OVER TIMOR SELL-OUT". Tribune. No. 2030. New South Wales, Australia. 25 January 1978. p. 3. Retrieved 27 March 2022 – via National Library of Australia.

"Wrest Point — Tasmania's "number one" attraction". The Australian Jewish Times. Vol. 88, , no. 36. New South Wales, Australia. 5 June 1980. p. 14. Retrieved 27 March 2022 – via National Library of Australia.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

No doubt an argument could be that google catches current online tendencies, I am making the point that in the historical record cbd is an alien concept in many contexts... JarrahTree 06:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure, but those are pretty old references, and it doesn't exactly reflect modern-day usage. Nearly all modern journalism in the 2020s use "Hobart CBD". Surely we're not going to call Kyiv as Kiev because that was the common name once upon a time. SHB2000 (talk) 10:39, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

sure - having lived in Hobart, and visited since over the years, I would debate whether the requirements of naming of the centre is required to be modern-day usage - the pervasive usage over time has never referred to the suggested name change above - and considering the very range of modern journalism in Hobart is very almost non existent, I would defer to the current local inhabitant's comment below - noting his comment definitions have been muddied JarrahTree 07:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose - The central business district refers to ~12 blocks in the middle of the city. The City Centre refers to the part of Hobart that is not South Hobart, Sandy Bay, West Hobart, Glebe, etc. Definitions have been muddied since a lot of online references refer back to the Wikipedia articles and Hobart CBD is a redirect, without a distinct article. Examples of "CBD" being used to refer to the smaller grid is [page 5 here] (PDF). Example of "City Centre" being used here (Google Maps link) -- Chuq (talk) 07:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.