Talk:Holiday (Green Day song)
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Lyric Issue
editIn the spoken verse, the second line goes: Paparazzi, Eiffel Towers, will criticize your government; not pulverise the eiffel towers. At least, this is what's written in the lyric booklet provided with the cd. Or is it a mistake in the booklet? I doubt it. - Ishaandirnt
- Scan it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blaze7755 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
George Bush OR Politicians?
editRegarding the article: he said "'fuck you' to George W. Bush" and not "all the politicians". - Macintalk
There is a sentence in one of the first paragraphs that talks about "Jackson is so awesome he was secretly in every scence of the video..." Could someone who knows what that even means please fix it?
In regard to Macintalk, no he didn't. He said "...a big fuck you to all the politicians."
- I do know on the Bullet in a Bible DVD, he talks about "all the politicians", but on other live versions of the song, he directs it towards Bush personally. -- Selmo (talk) 03:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Odd title
editAnyone know why it's called Holiday when it's a song about war.Buc 21:22, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
my guess is that Armstrong is commenting how politicians treat their day job like it's holiday time. I have always felt that the lyrics are a mockery of how some politicians discuss and make decisions. Rosham60 (talk) 10:46, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe a shout-out to The Dead Kennedys Holiday in Cambodia. They share similar themes. 50.74.14.28 (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Time signature
editIsn't it in 12/8, not 4/4? The all the drum tabs suggest that its 12/8, and Tre at some points fills out a bar with 12 notes on the snare... So surly it's 12/8?
RE: I may be wrong, but i dont think the amount of snare notes he plays affects the signature as long as he sticks to the 16 beats (4 by 4). Im pretty sure its a 4 by 4 throughout, but hey, im not an expert! - ishaandirnt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishaandirnt (talk • contribs) 15:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
You can consider it either way. It's either 12/8, or it's 4/4 with swung eighths and a lot of triplets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.162.44.48 (talk) 20:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
It's 4/4, I play it in marching band. 12 notes = 4 triplet eighths (not swung, that dosen't change amounts). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.241.155 (talk) 04:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Rock?
editWhat signals this as Pop Rock and Boulvard as Rock? Who determines this? H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 20:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have no idea. I move that it be labelled "rock" at least.--Jude 06:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest Pop Punk like the rest of their songs on Wiki. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 07:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- I just fixed it. To justify it: the sidebar said that it was pop punk but the article said it was rock, so I just put "pop punk" into the article to match it up.--Jude 07:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Changed to Pop Punk...again. Guys, this is not Alternative Rock or Folk Punk(wtf?).77.30.217.141 (talk) 12:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I just fixed it. To justify it: the sidebar said that it was pop punk but the article said it was rock, so I just put "pop punk" into the article to match it up.--Jude 07:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest Pop Punk like the rest of their songs on Wiki. H2P (Yell at me for what I've done) 07:08, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
This isn't punk rock, it's just punk pop!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomEnigma (talk • contribs) 16:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
No,it's more punk than pop punk!American Idiot is pop punk,but Holiday is way different than pop punk--188.26.49.48 (talk) 13:07, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
- Why not have it say pop punk, punk, rock or something of the sort? cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 21:07, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
tre
editdid tre cool dress in a drag? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.8.69.18 (talk) 05:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC).
- In the video, yes.--Jude 07:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
This song is not Alternative rock in any way, shape or form
editYOU stop changing the genre. -- Blaze7755 (talk) 17:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- This is not specifically directed at Blaze, but it's more appropriate to put it in this section than create a new one. DO NOT CHANGE THE GENRE IN THE INFOBOX WITHOUT DISCUSSION FIRST. If you want to get the genre of Green Day's music changed, please discuss the change at Talk:Green Day before actually making any changes. Thank you. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 19:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, what else would you call this song? it's not really pop punk, or punk rock, i personally think Alternative rock is a fitting genre. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 10:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought this page was sprotected?
editRivers Cuomo?
editHow do we know it's Rivers Cuomo from Weezer? When I first saw it, I thought it was Buddy Holly or someone like that. ChesterG (talk) 20:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
True. In fact, i hadn't even realized that he looked like Rivers after i read the page. He's just a random geek. I really don't think he was intended to look like Rivers. - Ishaandirnt *want to be* KING FOR A DAY! 18:59, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I think someone from Green Day mentioned something about Rivers Cuomo in the making of the music video for "Holiday". --Blaguymonkey (talk) 02:44, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Not pop punk
editThis song isn't pop punk. Minority and LOTAG are pop punk by GREEN DAY and this song doesn't sound all happy and joyful or friendly, read the lyrics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.28.140.11 (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view (short version: your opinion of the song is irrelevant, only what reliable sources have to say is relevant). --IllaZilla (talk) 20:36, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Lets just stick to sourced genres.
Sources for genre
editIn the interests of avoiding an edit war on genre, it is important to note that when supplying sources for gene changes they should be professional reviews, directly related to the song (or album) and the information should be specific. There are currently sources referenced that do not meet the required standard. contact music and sentences like "yogether all these elements pack a meaningful punk punch" arguably do noes not support a punk genre. contains a vague reference to punk and then specifically states an alternate view. You can't cheery pick the sections that support a genre (vaguely) and ignore the sections that don't. For the source Green Day: A Musical Biography, please quote the section that supports punk rock genre for Holiday. Flat Out let's discuss it 00:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
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