Talk:Honda Fit

Latest comment: 2 years ago by HumanBodyPiloter5 in topic Categorisation in sources

Fit = Cunt in Sweden?

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Rumor has it, that the reason the name is different in Europe is because of a naming goof. Truth or Fiction? The world would like to know.
~ender 2013-01-02 11:59:AM MST

There is such a word in swedish: "Fitta", See http://translate.google.com/#sv/en/fitta
It makes for a nice story, which is usually an indicator of an urban myth. See similar claims at http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/misxlate.asp
A lot of these urban myths are too good of a story to be true, and the "small on the outside, but large on the inside" slogan seems like it is a good example of that. See http://www.snopes.com/business/misxlate/nova.asp for another example.
The main reason I don't buy this story is that the vehicle is marketed as the "Fit" in Japan, China, and North and South America and as the "Jazz" in Europe, Asia, Oceania, the Middle East, and Africa. Why change the name in Africa if the naming problem is in Sweden?
Until someone comes up with a reliable source showing that the Fit name was used in Sweden and then changed, I suggest treating this as a probable urban myth. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:52, 22 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
It was originally planned to be named "Fitta", press materials etc were already printed by the time Honda realized that all of Scandinavia would laugh their heads off. Since Europe is a fairly well integrated market, "Jazz" (as already used in the 80s) was chosen instead for the entire region. I guess the other markets just followed by sheer inertia, but don't have any actual evidence for that part. Added another citation from 2002.  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm interested to see the original report('Daily News'?) which seems to be the source material. The original of urban myths always seems to come from other sources which can never be found.--North wiki (talk) 02:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Not sure what you are referring to. I added a Swedish language source from 2002. Also, it is recommended that editors not alter their earlier comments on talk pages - instead add a new comment and leave your existing material. Sometimes strikethrough ("<s> </s>") can be used if you want to show that you have changed your mind about something. Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  02:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
From the Swedish site: 'Det är Dagens Nyheter som skriver att "affären Fitta" kostat Honda åtskilliga miljoner Euro. Man citerar en japansk biltidning.' Where is this "Daily News"?--North wiki (talk) 02:42, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ah, "Dagens Nyheter" - I didn't realize that you were translating the name of the paper. I can't find anything that old on their own website, but the Swedish reference is from a reputable car magazine. However, I found this short article from 2008, in which Dagens Nyheter state that the "Fitta" name was an urban myth. "Fit" would still be a problematic name in Northern Europe, but perhaps "Fitta" was always a myth? Maybe an editor in Sweden could find out more?  Mr.choppers | ✎  03:05, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
My guess is this is just a misunderstanding, 'Fit' would be pronounced by those who speak Japanese as 'Fitta' because in their language, they don't end with a consonant.--North wiki (talk) 05:15, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Well, it's written フィット in Japanese - or "Fitto". No matter what, I wouldn't ever try to market a car called "Fit" in Scandinavia.  Mr.choppers | ✎  23:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Marketing in Sweden is very english oriented, even swedish brands marketed for swedes have been known to use english. I can think of several examples of the use of "fit" in swedish marketing, mainly in reference to clothes (e g "slim fit") and exercise. The "problem" in swedish is that verb- and article form of "fit" is "fitta", so it's likely you would say something along the lines of "let's take the cunt for a spin" ("ska vi ta en tur i fittan"). --144.63.247.11 (talk) 07:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

== Actually in norwegian, "en fitte" is a pussy, and "fitta" is the pussy, while "fitt" is the dialect variant of "en fitte" in the trøndelag and north western region of norway. Many onther dialects of norway also contains variants of the word "fitte" which would make any norwegian gigle like a school kid when the see a Honda Fit/Fitta

Here is an article about the name change from a Swedish car magazine in 2001 http://www.bilsport.se/artikel/honda-fitta-byter-namn-europa-premiar-i-host/ This is another article about the car http://www.automotorsport.se/artiklar/nyheter/20010508/nya-hondan-heter-fitta Interesting about this is: "Uppgiften kommer från ett japanskt motormagasin som specialiserat sig på att avslöja kommande bilmodeller. Svenska Honda säger sig inte kunna kommentera fallet, eftersom "japanska Honda inte själva släppt någon officiell information i ärendet". Klart torde i alla fall vara att den nya lilla Hondan ska premiärvisas i Japan den 5 juni. Om "spionuppgifterna" om namnet är riktiga, lär Svenska Honda få fundera på hur man löser det delikata problemet." Roughly translated: "The information comes from a Japanese motor magazine that specialize in revealing upcoming models. Swedish Honda says it is unable to comment on the case because "the Japanese Honda has not itself released any official information on the matter." Clearly should in all cases be that the new small Honda will be shown in Japan on 5 June. If the "spy data" of the name is correct, Swedish Honda will have to think about how to solve the delicate problem." I guess this could be a mistranslation of フィット "Fitto" that appeared somewhere and then became an urban semi-legend. However the article about the name change (from June 21) says that it was "presented as Honda Fitta". Can't really find any other articles online from this period, except some forum posts from may 2001 making fun of the name of the model. But the real source seems to be some Japanese car magazine that might have spelled it wrong or something. 83.255.73.115 (talk) 11:48, 27 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

(WP:OR) - my mother owns a Honda Fit since 2018; we are from Sweden and the car is an endless source of tawdry jokes. It is quite hilarious but Honda Europe definitely made the right decision...  Mr.choppers | ✎  15:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
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what type of oil is recommended for a Honda Ft transmission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.16.215 (talk) 11:13, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Proposed merge of Honda Fit (second generation) into Honda Fit

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There is already a section at Honda Fit which talks about second-generation Honda Fit. Why need a new article??? Hatchens (talk) 07:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

It has been done in numerous popular car articles which has reached the point where the page length would be too long to be read comfortably if every generation is included in the article in detail. For example, Honda Accord, Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Camry, and others. The second generation section is quite long so it would make sense to be split into its own article. Next I'm planning to split the first generation section as well. - Andra Febrian (talk) 07:33, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
User:Hatchens Is the proposal still up? Seemed like this had reached a dead end (?) - Andra Febrian (talk) 07:53, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Andra Febrian, I reviewed it but I think we need a second opinion on this mergeing part. The merge notice has been put just two days ago. So let's wait. Howvever, Can we simultaneously start a discussion on a Honda Fit's talk page and invite others to add their views? - Hatchens (talk) 10:08, 4 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Oppose. Too popular and too much text to add to the Honda Fit article. --BlueCrabRedCrab 14:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Oppose - enough content to justify standalone.  Mr.choppers | ✎  15:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Categorisation in sources

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A quick survey of Google search results for "Honda Fit review" and "Honda Jazz review" brings up the following:

  • Car and Driver call it a "small car" and a "subcompact hatchback".
  • Consumer Reports call it a "tiny hatchback" and "such a small car".
  • Edmunds call it a "small car", a "subcompact hatchback", a "small economy-minded hatchback", a "subcompact car", a "small hatchback", an "economy hatchback", and a "subcompact economy car".
  • Motor Trend call it a "small car" and a "little hatch".
  • US Autotrader calls it a "subcompact car" and "a small vehicle".
  • Autoblog calls it "a spacious small hatchback" and "a subcompact".
  • What Car? calls it a "small car".
  • Top Gear magazine calls it a "small car", a "supermini"
  • Car Wow call it a "small car".
  • Auto Express call it a "supermini".
  • Autocar call it a "supermini-cum-mini-MPV".
  • Parker's Car Guides call it a "small car" and a "supermini".
  • The RAC call it a "supermini" and a "small car".
  • Car Magazine call it a "supermini".
  • Cars Guide calls it a "small car".
  • Which Car? call it a "city car".
  • Car Expert call it a "light car".
  • Drive.com.au call it a "light car".

Overall I would say that the term with the most WP:COMMONALITY would appear to be "small car" out of all of these. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 13:07, 21 June 2022 (UTC)Reply