Talk:Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it has a significance since this is the first US Congress bill regarding Hong Kong since the Hong Kong Policy Act of 1992. This Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act is also widely considered by some as a continuation of the Policy Act of 1992. -- ELHK | 〒 00:06, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose. As far as I know, US has considered the bill again due to 2019 Hong Kong protests. Mariogoods (talk) 00:08, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Bill Passed

Vote was unanimous. If somebody wants to state this you can. Sometaintedlove (talk) 00:41, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

RfC: the composing problem in Reactions section

China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang responded that the bill "fully reveals the ill intentions of some people in the United States to mess up Hong Kong and contain China's development." The managing director of a Hong Kong pro-democracy group said through a statement sent to Newsweekthat the foreign ministry's response showed that the PRC was "sensitive and susceptible to international pressure." After the House passed the Act, Beijing condemned the move and said it would take countermeasures. An article in Politico said that Jim Risch (R-ID), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, appeared undeterred by Beijing's reaction, telling reporters that he hoped for quick Senate action on the bill.I have attempted to deleted the sentences presenting the analysis of Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeman’s response, but these edits got reverted. It is not because I want to hide their opinions. But I think their opinions are somewhat too detailed. I believed that Chinese will actually do something and the reactions from Chinese government will be expanded. The format now is like “Chinese statement-analysis-Chinese statement-analysis”, which may be harmful to readlity. I have suggested serveal solutions:

• Choice 1: Giving divided sub-sections such as “Chinese government reactions”, “Hong Kong reactions” and deleting these analysis;
• Choice 2: Giving divided sub-sections: such as “Chinese government reactions”, “Hong Kong reactions” and not to delete these analysis;
• Choice 3: Delete these analysis only;
• Choice 4: Not to delete these analysis.

Any other suggestions are welcomed. Mariogoods (talk) 04:17, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

They aren't analysis, they are responses to the response. Don't misrepresent what they are because you want to leave the the initial response by the PRC foreign ministry unchallenged. Flaughtin (talk) 08:31, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Flaughtin: Thank you for your response. I believed that we should represent challenge of Chinese government per WP:NPOV. However, some are personal reaction rather than criticism of Chinese government's statements. And personally, I don't want to delete them but restructure the section instead. Mariogoods (talk) 05:19, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

They aren't personal reactions they are direct criticisms of the statements by people in an officla capacity. By the way your actions contradict what you say about restructuring because you have been deleting the responses without restoring/restructuring them. Flaughtin (talk) 04:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Oh, my mistake. And I'll wait for the consensus.

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