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request edit Sept 19, #2

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to suggest new independent sources. Thank you.

Delete: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304

Add: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company[1][2], act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota. [3]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Holcombe, Randall G. (5 Apr 2016). Writing Off Ideas: Taxation, Philanthropy and America's Non-profit Foundations. New Jersey: Transaction Publishers; 1 edition. p. 48. ISBN 0765800136. The Hormel Foundation is a Minnesota foundation established to retain control of the Hormel Company. The founders of the company were concerned that after their deaths the company would be swallowed up by industry giants, so gave controlling interest in the firm to the foundation. The foundation trustees are required to have chief financial interests in the company, in an attempt to ensure that the company would not be taken over… the Hormel Foundation … described in chapter 2 that were designed in order to maintain control over corporations by endowing the foundations with corporate stock.
  2. ^ Rachleff, Peter J. (1 Jul 1999). Hard-pressed in the Heartland: The Hormel Strike and the Future of the Labor. Boston: South End Press. p. 76. ISBN 0896084507. …the Hormel family had created the Foundation and given it control of their stock. The Foundation was supposed to act in the "best interests of the Austin community."
  3. ^ {{cite web |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/182936956/?terms=hormel%2Bfoundation%7Ctitle=New President Chosen for Hormel Firm |author=<!—Special to the Minneapolis Tribune-->|date=19 Apr 1955|website= Newspapers.com|publisher=Hormel Lab Dedicated |access-date=18 September 2018|

    Scientists, educators and industrialists gathered here Friday to dedicate the newly-expanded Hormel institute... the history of the project from 1942, when it was established as a division of the university’s graduate school. It started with a study of the food value of soybeans. The institute’s new laboratories are in the long white building that once was the Hormel stables. A little corner of the building was first used in 1944 for an institute project. Since then, more and more of the building and, finally, all of it, was converted from equestrian to scientific use… Dr. J. L. Morrill, University of Minnesota president, was presented with a dedication scroll.

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 Reply 19-SEP-2018 

This is a fairly long sentence with a lot of claims packed into it. The previous reference supposedly covers all three major parts of this claim sentence. If we're going to break it up, then let's take advantage of that break up to try and make each constituent part of the sentence more clear by unpacking them into separate sentences. Saying "perpetual independence" does not really explain the idea behind this business move, which was to imbue company officers known as trustees with greater financial interests of the company (according to your source). Now the second part of the sentence says this "act as trustees of the family trusts" but if this is what we mean by perpetual independence then why cant this just be said. The other parts of the unpacked sentence should be also elaborated upon, particularly the Rachleff source, which appears to describe pitfalls of the Foundation evident sometime after 1985 but the prose in the article says nothing about this. To use this source, we can't eat our cake and have it too. In order to avoid this cherrypicking, my suggestion is to either use it or leave it out completely.

 spintendo  01:54, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 20, #1

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Hello, I think yesterday I had a spacing “|” near the link, so hope the same url works now. I would like to suggest new wording attached to Dinty Moore. Thank you.

Add: Dinty Moore began as a New-York based character in a 1913 daily syndicated popular 'Bringing Up Father newspaper comic strip by George McManus. In the comic, Dinty Moore served hearty dishes at his tavern. McManus in real life frequented a restaurant owned by his friend James Moore that served dishes like Irish stew and corned beef and cabbage and Moore eventually changed the restaurant’s name to Dinty Moore. Other Dinty Moore locations opened nationally, and a Dinty Moore Picnics product was sold under a registered name by a Minneapolis retail store.

The Dinty Moore trademark was bought by Hormel in 1935, and the company began selling its steamed beef and gravy canned Dinty Moore product.[1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ {{cite web |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/14/nyregion/fyi-638820.html |title=FYI A column of questions and answers about New York City.|author=<!—Daniel B. Schneider-->|date=14 Oct 2001|website=nytimes.com|publisher=New York Times |access-date=19 September 2018||

    Stew From the Funnies

    Q. When I was kid I loved Dinty Moore beef stew. Recently I learned that Dinty Moore's was for many years a popular New York restaurant. Who was Dinty Moore, and was he, in fact, the man behind the stew? A. In 1913, George McManus, a cartoonist for The New York American, created a comic strip called Bringing Up Father, which satirized the struggles of Jiggs and Maggie, a working-class Irish couple thrust by sudden wealth into the world of New York's pampered elite. Jiggs, who longs for his previous life, returns often to the tavern owned by his old pal, Dinty Moore. Bringing Up Father was an instant and enduring hit. It became a daily feature in 1916. George McManus sometimes visited James Moore's Irish-style restaurant at 216 West 46th Street. Convinced that he was the inspiration for the Dinty Moore of comic strip fame, Mr. Moore took the name for his restaurant, which became a popular Midtown hangout for sports heroes, celebrities and swells. Corned beef and cabbage was a specialty, of course. So was Irish stew. Other Dinty Moore's were opened in cities around the country.

    In the 1930's, a meat retailer in Minneapolis registered the Dinty Moore name and sold a cured meat product called Dinty Moore Picnics. Hormel Foods bought the name and marketed its own steamed-beef-and-gravy product, at 15 cents a can, starting in 1935. The stew was renowned for its long shelf life.

    Later Hormel introduced a short-lived Dinty Moore character, a cartoon lumberjack, to help sell the product, which remains popular. The restaurant on 46th Street, with its polished brass and mahogany bar, was considered a virtual landmark when it closed in the early 1970's.

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 Reply 21-SEP-2018 

Mary how about for this one we do a direct quote, I think that would work nicely. Something like According to the New York Times, "Hormel Foods bought the name Dinty Moore" sometime in the 1930s and "marketed its own steamed-beef-and-gravy product, at 15 cents a can, starting in 1935." Let me know if that works for you by changing the template to read ans=no. Thanks!

 spintendo  19:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 21, #1

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Hello, I think this item somehow did not make it to the main WP page. I would like to suggest another new independent source and different wording. Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67 

Add: In 1929, the company began implementing its Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid the same weekly wages, even when their hourly work schedule would change depending on slow or busy the livestock season was.[1] [2] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ <!—Bette Freedman--> (19 May 1949). "Here Steady Work Pays Off!". Newspapers.com. The Independent Hawarden, Iowa. Retrieved 30 August 2018. The Hormel annual wage plan, which was begun as early as 1929 when the management began experimenting with the idea of assuring continuous employment, has affected a strong economic upturn for all of Hormel's employees…. During periods of heavy livestock receipts an employee may work up to a maximum of 53 hours in a single week, with his extra hours credited to his annual time quota, and during the slack or slow season, he may work as little as 24 hours a week, but he is always paid on the basis of 52 full work weeks a year.subscription required|s}}
  2. ^ <!—unlisted--> (10 March 1962). "Hormel Unions Ask 2-Year Guarantee". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved 21 September 2018. Hormel pioneered an "annual wage" plan during the 30s, agreeing to give its permanent employees 52 weeks notice before lay-off.subscription required|s}}

 Reply 22-SEP-2018 

These claim statements, both to be deleted and to be added, appear to perhaps be saying different things.
The to be deleted states:

  1. Annual wage plan = Employees paid weekly and guaranteed 52 weeks notice before termination.

The to be added states:

  1. Annual wage plan = Employees to be paid the same weekly wages (this is possibly different than being "paid weekly")

The source states that a quota system is used in this program, but the quota system is not mentioned in the prose. How did this quota system work? Did these quotas affect workers who did not meet their quota during the busy season who might then try to be paid extra wages during the slow season?

Also, of the two new references to be added:

  1. The first one mentions the guaranteed pay
  2. The second one doesn't mention guaranteed pay, only that it guarantees it will wait 52 weeks before terminating an employee, but not whether those 52 weeks are with pay or without. It would seem any employee who didn't meet their quota might have a long 52 unpaid weeks to wait before receiving a pink-slip. Please advise.

     Spintendo  12:38, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit Sept 20, #2

Latest comment: 6 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304

Add: By 1942, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to act as trustees of the family trusts[1], and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota. [2] [3]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Holcombe, Randall G. (5 Apr 2016). Writing Off Ideas: Taxation, Philanthropy and America's Non-profit Foundations. New Jersey: Transaction Publishers; 1 edition. p. 48. ISBN 0765800136. The Hormel Foundation is a Minnesota foundation established to retain control of the Hormel Company. The founders of the company were concerned that after their deaths the company would be swallowed up by industry giants, so gave controlling interest in the firm to the foundation. The foundation trustees are required to have chief financial interests in the company, in an attempt to ensure that the company would not be taken over… the Hormel Foundation … described in chapter 2 that were designed in order to maintain control over corporations by endowing the foundations with corporate stock.
  2. ^ {{cite web |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/182936956/?terms=hormel%2Bfoundation%7Ctitle=New President Chosen for Hormel Firm |author=<!—Special to the Minneapolis Tribune-->|date=19 Apr 1955|website=Newspapers.com|publisher=Star Tribune |access-date=18 September 2018|

    Scientists, educators and industrialists gathered here Friday to dedicate the newly-expanded Hormel institute... the history of the project from 1942, when it was established as a division of the university’s graduate school. It started with a study of the food value of soybeans. The institute’s new laboratories are in the long white building that once was the Hormel stables. A little corner of the building was first used in 1944 for an institute project. Since then, more and more of the building and, finally, all of it, was converted from equestrian to scientific use… Dr. J. L. Morrill, University of Minnesota president, was presented with a dedication scroll.

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  3. ^ {{cite web |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/187588249/?terms=hormel%2Bfoundation%2Bjay%2Bhormel%7Ctitle=New Hormel Institute Set Up at University, Foundation Finances Farm Research |author=<!—none listed-->|date=16 Nov 1942|website= Newspapers.com|publisher=The Minneapolis Star |access-date=20 September 2018|

    A new research unit—Hormel Institute, a division of the graduate school – has been set up at University of Minnesota with its acceptance by the board of regents…Negotiations for its establishment have been carried on over several weeks by Jay C. Hormel of Austin, Minn., and officers of the university. Funds for the institute will be appropriated by Hormel foundation, which exists under laws of Minnesota for religious, charitable, scientific, literary and educational purposes. Sums to be given may vary year to year, and the arrangement may be terminated on due notice by either party. Purpose of the institute are “promotion of education and research in plant and animal production and utilization, including the relation of animal products to disease and the treatment of disease and the treatment of disease, animal diseases, food technology, nutrition, tree culture and wood technology, and principles and techniques of management in relation thereto, and such other subject as may be mutually agreed upon.” The agreement sets forth the Hormel foundation possesses “certain income-bearing securities and expects from time to time to receive additional income-bearing securities and real and personal property, particularly the home property of Jay C. Hormel…”.

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 Reply 21-SEP-2018 

How about with this statement we split the sentence into two parts. Reading like this: By 1942, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to act as trustees of the family trusts. In 1955, the Foundation moved to start and fund the Hormel Institute, which initially started "with a study of the food value of soybeans." Let me know if that works. Also, to expand upon what the institute does, since the value of soybeans may seem modest, the sentence could be expanded with another reference stating "which initially started with a study of the food value of soybeans, and grew to study other food and nutrition topics such as _____" or something to that effect. Let me know what you think. Thank you!

 spintendo  19:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo:That works, good idea. Only thing is, the Institute also started in 1942, so perhaps could we go with something like: By 1942, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to act as trustees of the family trusts. The Foundation funded the Hormel Institute at the University of Minnesota, and the Institute was initially started with a study of the food value of soybeans. The Institute's scope later grew towards studying nutrition, animal diseases and food technology." Thank you! (talk) Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

 Reply 22-SEP-2018 

I like your suggestion, only thing is the URL for the Holcombe reference is not working. Do you have another one? Thanks!

 Spintendo  04:11, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo: Hoping this link works better. Thanks! : https://books.google.com/books?id=gSFWDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT85&dq=The%20Hormel%20Foundation%20is%20a%20Minnesota%20foundation%20established%20to%20retain%20control%20of%20the%20Hormel%20Company.%20The%20founders%20of%20the%20company%20were%20concerned%20that%20after%20their%20deaths%20the%20company%20would%20be%20swallowed%20up%20by%20industry%20giants%2C%20so%20gave%20controlling%20interest%20in%20the%20firm%20to%20the%20foundation.%20The%20foundation%20trustees%20are%20required%20to%20have%20chief%20financial%20interests%20in%20the%20company%2C%20in%20an%20attempt%20to%20ensure%20that%20the%20company%20would%20not%20be%20taken%20over&pg=PT85#v=onepage&q=The%20Hormel%20Foundation%20is%20a%20Minnesota%20foundation%20established%20to%20retain%20control%20of%20the%20Hormel%20Company.%20The%20founders%20of%20the%20company%20were%20concerned%20that%20after%20their%20deaths%20the%20company%20would%20be%20swallowed%20up%20by%20industry%20giants,%20so%20gave%20controlling%20interest%20in%20the%20firm%20to%20the%20foundation.%20The%20foundation%20trustees%20are%20required%20to%20have%20chief%20financial%20interests%20in%20the%20company,%20in%20an%20attempt%20to%20ensure%20that%20the%20company%20would%20not%20be%20taken%20over&f=false Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

  Done  Spintendo  20:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 22, #1

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to suggest another new independent source and different wording. I am not sure which date to use, since the sources cite different dates (1929, 1931, 1933). What would you recommend. Perhaps “By 1933”? Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67 

Add: By 1933, Jay C. implemented the Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly, with a guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment. The plan meant that employees were paid weekly at the same base rate for an entire year, even if the work schedule called for a variance in hours during the company’s slower and busier livestock periods.[1]  [2]  [3] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:05, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ <!—Bette Freedman--> (May 19, 1949). "Here Steady Work Pays Off!". Newspapers.com. The Independent Hawarden, Iowa. Retrieved 30 August 2018. The Hormel annual wage plan, which was begun as early as 1929 when the management began experimenting with the idea of assuring continuous employment, has affected a strong economic upturn for all of Hormel's employees…. During periods of heavy livestock receipts an employee may work up to a maximum of 53 hours in a single week, with his extra hours credited to his annual time quota, and during the slack or slow season, he may work as little as 24 hours a week, but he is always paid on the basis of 52 full work weeks a year.subscription required|s}}
  2. ^ <!—unlisted--> (March 10, 1962). "Hormel Unions Ask 2-Year Guarantee". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved September 21, 2018. Hormel pioneered an "annual wage" plan during the 30s, agreeing to give its permanent employees 52 weeks notice before lay-off.subscription required|s}}
  3. ^ <!—Julius Duscha of the Herald and Review Editorial Page Staff--> (2 October 1955). "52 Weeks on Payroll Annual Wage Plan Pays Off at Hormel". Newspapers.com. The Decatur Daily Review. Retrieved September 22, 2018. Since 1933 Hormel has had what is called a guaranteed wage today. It has been a great success. After the distraught laid-off worker left his office Jay C. Hormel, who died last year, decided the custom of letting a man go when there was no work was not right. If office workers were paid 52 weeks a year, why shouldn't workers in the plant be assured of steady income, too? The answer was what Hormel always referred to as "straight time."…
    The Hormel plan has nothing to do with state unemployment compensation payments…The Hormel plan guarantees each worker that he will be on the payroll 52 weeks a year. Some weeks he may only work 20 hours, other weeks he may have to work as many as 53 hours. The worker is guaranteed so much pay a week. He can earn more by turning out more than what is considered a normal work load for the particular job he is doing…"…All 4,000 employees are paid on a weekly basis and they are guaranteed 52 weeks noticed before they are laid off, which assures each and every one of them a steady job for a year from the date of notice."     {{cite web}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 447 (help)subscription required|s}}

 Reply 18:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC) 

The piece by Julius Duscha of the Herald and Review Editorial Page Staff published in the Decatur Daily Review is an editorial, so we can't use that one. The Freedman article titled "Here Steady Work Pays Off!" is disconcerting in the way the headline is titled, though I'm unsure if that was merely the style of headlines in that time period. It's the type of headline you wouldn't expect to see in today's papers I don't think. Styled that way, it looks too much like an advertisement by today's standards.

Postscript: I can see that the article from the Independent Hawarden originated from their magazine section of the paper, which is still nominally a part of the newspaper, but worded differently in style and tone. Notwithstanding the possibility that this piece was published with input from the company (based on how it was written, according to the standards of publishing in effect more than 60 years ago) I still think it could work as a source, possibly in compliment to the company published Dougherty source—and I'd be willing to put it in the article. It just needs to be re-written to omit the Duscha source, which as an editorial, can't be used.

 Spintendo  18:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 24, #1

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Hello, I would like to suggest another new independent source and different wording. I am not sure which date to use, since the sources cite different dates (1929, 1931, 1933). What would you recommend? Perhaps “By 1933”? Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67 

Add: By 1933, Jay C. implemented the Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly, with a guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment. The plan meant that employees were paid weekly at the same base rate for an entire year, even if the work schedule called for a variance in hours during the company’s slower and busier livestock periods.[1]  [2]  Thank you.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:45, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ <!—Bette Freedman--> (May 19, 1949). "Here Steady Work Pays Off!". Newspapers.com. The Independent Hawarden, Iowa. Retrieved 30 August 2018. The Hormel annual wage plan, which was begun as early as 1929 when the management began experimenting with the idea of assuring continuous employment, has affected a strong economic upturn for all of Hormel's employees…. During periods of heavy livestock receipts an employee may work up to a maximum of 53 hours in a single week, with his extra hours credited to his annual time quota, and during the slack or slow season, he may work as little as 24 hours a week, but he is always paid on the basis of 52 full work weeks a year.subscription required|s}}
  2. ^ <!—unlisted--> (March 10, 1962). "Hormel Unions Ask 2-Year Guarantee". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved September 21, 2018. Hormel pioneered an "annual wage" plan during the 30s, agreeing to give its permanent employees 52 weeks notice before lay-off.subscription required|s}}

Reply 25-SEP-2018

   Already implemented  

  1. I'm comfortable having the claim about 52 weeks before termination (which is already in the article) but I still dont understand how that affects pay or the quotas. In the end this is a lot of information being asked on a magazine article more than 70 years old, with quotas and guaranteed pay, and base rates and still no explanation for how long the entire thing lasted for. The reference from 1962 is better than the magazine article, but it says the same thing Daugherty is saying, meanwhile its URL still connects to the 70 year old magazine article.  Spintendo  11:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 24, #2

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Hello, I would like to update info on Dairy Brand and remove the patent office as a source but instead use the older Dougherty source. I did not realize that the patents counted as new sources affiliated with Hormel, would rather lower that count if possible. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The name Dairy Brand was first used in 1903, and registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1926. .[12] 

Add: The name Dairy Brand was first used in 1903, and registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1926. [1]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Dougherty, Richard (1966). In Quest of Quality: Hormel’s First 75 Years. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. p. 68.

Reply 25-SEP-2018

   Edit request implemented    Spintendo  11:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 26, #1

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Hello, for some reason, the text about the wage plan is not currently in the article. Perhaps we can together fix that? I think the original book source was Lund, not Dougherty. The 52 weeks notice is sometimes mentioned as a part of the wage plan, but not in all sources. Jay C’s wage plan was in place through at least 1941.

I would like to suggest other new independent sources and different wording. Thank you.

Old text (from earlier in 2018): In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67 

Add: By 1933, Jay C. implemented the Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly at the same base rate for an entire year, even during the company’s slower and busier livestock periods.[1]  [2]  [3]

[4]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ <!—Bette Freedman--> (May 19, 1949). "Here Steady Work Pays Off!". Newspapers.com. The Independent Hawarden, Iowa. Retrieved 30 August 2018. The Hormel annual wage plan, which was begun as early as 1929 when the management began experimenting with the idea of assuring continuous employment, has affected a strong economic upturn for all of Hormel's employees…. During periods of heavy livestock receipts an employee may work up to a maximum of 53 hours in a single week, with his extra hours credited to his annual time quota, and during the slack or slow season, he may work as little as 24 hours a week, but he is always paid on the basis of 52 full work weeks a year.subscription required|s}}
  2. ^ <!—unlisted--> (March 10, 1962). "Hormel Unions Ask 2-Year Guarantee". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved September 21, 2018. Hormel pioneered an "annual wage" plan during the 30s, agreeing to give its permanent employees 52 weeks notice before lay-off.subscription required|s}}
  3. ^ <--Levinson, Frances--> (March 11, 1946). "Hormel: The Spam Man An inventive meat packer who says GIs slander his product is full of ideas like Spic, Arf and an annual wage for workers". Life. New York: Time Inc. p. 63-. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Jay Hormel is an original thinker who has put his novel economic ideas into practice. The best-known of these is the Hormel company's guaranteed annual wage, designed to cushion employees against seasonal fluctuations in the meat industry. Under this system an employee's weekly base rate remains constant whether he works 53 hours in wintertime when the hog kill is at its peak or a mere 18 hours in summer when animals fatten on the farms and slaughtering is at a virtual standstill. Although the annual wage plan swells Hormel's payroll, he has discovered that increased output more than covers the cost. Significantly Local No. 9 of the C.I.O.'s United Packinghouse Workers, the Hormel local, is one of a handful of packinghouse units which have stayed on the job in the current meat crisis…. The new contract between George A. Hormel & Co. and U.P.W.A. Local 9 contains some unusual provisions. For example, no worker can be fired without 52 weeks' written notice except in cases of personal misconduct. Any employee not pulling his weight in his department is given written notification and his performance either improves or he is moved to a more suitable spot. The Hormel company boasts the lowest turnover rate of any packing houses in the nation.
  4. ^ Horowitz, Roger (1997). Negro and White, Unite and Fight! A Social History of Industrial Unionism 1930-1990. Champaign, Illinois: University of Illinois Press. pp. 55–56. ISBN 978-0-252-06621-4. In 1940 a long-term labor contract that provided for a new system of wage payment, the guaranteed annual wage, established a firm "rule of law" in the Hormel plant. In place of pay that varied according to the number of hours worked, Hormel employees received regular weekly checks for 1/52 of their projected annual earnings. Departments "contracted" to produce a certain volume of work in a year and received bonus checks if they exceeded their quota…. The company president, with the permission of the union, gradually implemented the GAW system in the mid-1930s by letting each department vote individually to adopt it. By 1938, 80 to 90 percent of Hormel's workers were on the guaranteed annual wage…. When a pig shortage curtailed production in 1935, Hormel did not cut the hog-kill gang, and workers received their full annual pay, even though there was not enough work to keep them busy…. Workers overwhelmingly supported the guaranteed annual wage because it satisfied many of the grievances that had produced the 1933 rebellion. It ended the arbitrary rule of the foremen and allowed workers to increase their earnings and regulate the pace of production within the framework of rising company profitability.

Reply 26-SEP-2018

The annual wage plan mentioned in the Life source talks about production schedules and discusses extra pay and profit sharing. The source also mentions a union provision where no worker could be fired without 52 weeks notice except in cases of personal misconduct (misconduct as something decided upon by the company and no outside mediator, as may be done today, for example). The bottom line with these claims is that they are not fully explained in circumstances of how long they lasted as provisions or directives, whether they made any major differences in worker output (as described by other sources) or whether or not these are merely different variations of several hundred different job provisions and wage sharing plans offered by the company in its many years of existence. I believe that mentioning them here based on sources which are 50+ years old would not WP:WEIGHT the article properly, and might give undue prominence to facts which don't necessarily reflect their importance given in a wide section of references beyond the primary sources you've already provided. Just because something is verifiably sourced does not always mean it's appropriate for inclusion, as a balance between the different elements must ultimately be achieved (See WP:BALASP). That being said, if there is anything which is outright false in the article now, please let me know and I'll remove it.  Spintendo  21:21, 26 September 2018 (UTC)  


request edit Sept 26, #2

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Hello, I would like to update the wording and sources using the article's citation template. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[25] He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[26] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[27] Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257 During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270

Add: After founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California, where he had lived in retirement, he was buried in Austin.[1] 

Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president.[2] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[3]

Jay C. Hormel died in 1954.[4] The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president.[5] During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[6]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:11, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "G.A. Hormel, Meat Packing Founder, Dies". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. June 6, 1946. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Los Angeles-The body of multimillionaire George Albert Hormel, 87, will be sent to Austin, Minn., birthplace of his meat packing house chain, for burial after funeral services today at his palatial Bel Air mansion. Mr. Hormel died late Wednesday at Good Samaritan hospital… Mr. Hormel had lived quietly at Bel Air since he retired from active management of his meat company in 1926.(Subscription required.)
  2. ^ "Hormel President 'Self-Made' Like an Alger Boy, Corey Goes to Top". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. July 9, 1946. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Corey, 53, who has been vice president and general manager of the company since 1938, was advanced to the presidency Monday by the board of directors. As president of the Hormel company he succeeds Jay C. Hormel who was made chairman of the board to fill the position held by his father, George A. Hormel, founder of the organization, who died June 5. R.F. Gray, 40, who came to the company from a road construction job as a sausage truck driver, was made executive vice president and general manager.(Subscription required.)
  3. ^ <--Genoways, Ted--> (February 2013). "This Land Is Not Your Land". Harper’s. New York: Harper’s Magazine Foundation. p. 2-11. Retrieved September 26, 2018.
  4. ^ <!—unknown--> (31 Aug 1954). "Jay C. Hormel". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. Retrieved 17 September 2018. Jay C. Hormel, 61, head of the George A. Hormel meat packing firm, died Monday after a long illness. Mr. Hormel, son of the founder of the firm, had suffered more than a year with a heart condition.(Subscription required.)
  5. ^ <!—Special to the Minneapolis Tribune--> (19 Apr 1955). "New President Chosen for Hormel Firm". Newspapers.com. Minneapolis Morning Tribune. Retrieved September 26, 2018. R.F. Gray, executive vice president of Geo. A. Hormel & Co., Monday was elected president of the 64-year-old meat-packing firm. H.H. Corey, president since 1946, will continue as chairman of the board and chief executive officer. Gray, 49, is the fourth president in the firm's history. George A. Hormel, the founder, headed the company for 38 years and after him his son Jay C Hormel was president until Corey took over in 1946.(Subscription required.)
  6. ^ <!—unlisted--> (17 Apr 1959). "Hormel Wins Approval of Human Processes". Newspapers.com. The Honolulu Advertiser. The Hormel Co. of Austin, Minn. Yesterday became the first packinghouse with nationwide distribution to receive the American Human Assn's seal of approval for humane processing of animals… The Hormel Co. last March 24 completed facilities by which lambs and calves were given anesthesia before shackling and dispatching. It pioneered this method with hogs in 1952, first in the world to do so. It began to use the bolt gun for stunning cattle in 1957. All of its several million meat animals a year purchased from farmers are now handled in these advanced humane techniques. The American Human Assn. is a federation of 507 humane organizations in the United States and Canada. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)(Subscription required.)

Reply SEP-26-2018

In requests for deletion, please include the wiki-formatted text of the references which are to be deleted as well, not just their bracketed note numbers (i.e., [2], etc.) in the verbatim descriptions of the deleted text. Please ensure that if the reference is an abbreviated version (e.g., <ref name=hormel/>) that the full version of the note be included so that it displays in the reflist-talk section. To display references on the talk page, please use {{reflist-talk}} with no heading, instead of adding an entire references section under the level 2 heading. The only level 2 heading should be for the title "edit request date___ " immediately before the {{edit COI}} template. The best place to put {{reflist-talk}} is immediately after your signature, as the reference box generated by it will act as a natural boundary to the next entered post in the conversational thread. Thank you!  Spintendo  21:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, do I use ref tags for the sources in the deleted section? I would like to update the wording and sources and hope I am formatting the deleted references properly – thanks for your help and patience.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[25].[1] He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[26][2]  Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[27][3] Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257 [4]

During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270 [5]

Add: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement and was buried in Austin.[6] 

Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president.[7] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[8]

Jay C. Hormel died in 1954.[9] The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president. [10] During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:12, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ {{cite web |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/396786454/?terms=george%2Bhormel%2B1860%2Bbuffalo%2Bnew%2Byork%7Ctitle=G.A. Hormel, Meat Packing Founder, Dies|author=|date=June 6, 1946|website=Newspapers.com|publisher=Wisconsin State Journal|(Subscription required.)
  2. ^ "Hormel President 'Self-Made' Like an Alger Boy, Corey Goes to Top". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. July 9, 1946. Retrieved August 30, 2018. Corey, 53, who has been vice president and general manager of the company since 1938, was advanced to the presidency Monday by the board of directors. As president of the Hormel company he succeeds Jay C. Hormel who was made chairman of the board to fill the position held by his father, George A. Hormel, founder of the organization, who died June 5. R.F. Gray, 40, who came to the company from a road construction job as a sausage truck driver, was made executive vice president and general manager.(Subscription required.)
  3. ^ <--Genoways, Ted--> (February 2013). "This Land Is Not Your Land". Harper’s. New York: Harper’s Magazine Foundation. p. 2-11. Retrieved September 6, 2018.
  4. ^ Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Co.
  5. ^ Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Co.
  6. ^ "G.A. Hormel, Meat Packing Founder, Dies". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. June 6, 1946. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Los Angeles-The body of multimillionaire George Albert Hormel, 87, will be sent to Austin, Minn., birthplace of his meat packing house chain, for burial after funeral services today at his palatial Bel Air mansion. Mr. Hormel died late Wednesday at Good Samaritan hospital… Mr. Hormel had lived quietly at Bel Air since he retired from active management of his meat company in 1926.(Subscription required.)
  7. ^ "Hormel President 'Self-Made' Like an Alger Boy, Corey Goes to Top". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. July 9, 1946. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Corey, 53, who has been vice president and general manager of the company since 1938, was advanced to the presidency Monday by the board of directors. As president of the Hormel company he succeeds Jay C. Hormel who was made chairman of the board to fill the position held by his father, George A. Hormel, founder of the organization, who died June 5. R.F. Gray, 40, who came to the company from a road construction job as a sausage truck driver, was made executive vice president and general manager.(Subscription required.)
  8. ^ <--Genoways, Ted--> (February 2013). "This Land Is Not Your Land". Harper’s. New York: Harper’s Magazine Foundation. p. 2-11. Retrieved September 26, 2018.
  9. ^ <!—unknown--> (August 31, 1954). "Jay C. Hormel". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. Retrieved September 17, 2018. Jay C. Hormel, 61, head of the George A. Hormel meat packing firm, died Monday after a long illness. Mr. Hormel, son of the founder of the firm, had suffered more than a year with a heart condition.(Subscription required.)
  10. ^ <!—Special to the Minneapolis Tribune--> (April 19, 1955). "New President Chosen for Hormel Firm". Newspapers.com. Minneapolis Morning Tribune. Retrieved September 17, 2018. R.F. Gray, executive vice president of Geo. A. Hormel & Co., Monday was elected president of the 64-year-old meat-packing firm. H.H. Corey, president since 1946, will continue as chairman of the board and chief executive officer. Gray, 49, is the fourth president in the firm's history. George A. Hormel, the founder, headed the company for 38 years and after him his son Jay C Hormel was president until Corey took over in 1946.(Subscription required.)
  11. ^ <!—unlisted--> (April 17, 1959). "Hormel Wins Approval of Human Processes". Newspapers.com. The Honolulu Advertiser. The Hormel Co. of Austin, Minn. Yesterday became the first packinghouse with nationwide distribution to receive the American Human Assn's seal of approval for humane processing of animals… The Hormel Co. last March 24 completed facilities by which lambs and calves were given anesthesia before shackling and dispatching. It pioneered this method with hogs in 1952, first in the world to do so. It began to use the bolt gun for stunning cattle in 1957. All of its several million meat animals a year purchased from farmers are now handled in these advanced humane techniques. The American Human Assn. is a federation of 507 humane organizations in the United States and Canada. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)(Subscription required.)
 

request edit September 26, #3

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@Spintendo: Hopefully you can help me delete the extra request or tell me how to do it since I appear to have inadvertently saved the same new section or comment twice.

Hello, do I use ref tags for the sources in the deleted section? I would like to update the wording and sources and hope I am formatting the deleted references properly – thanks for your help and patience.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[25].[1] He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[26][2]  Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[27][3] Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257 [4]

During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270 <[5]

Add: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement and was buried in Austin.[6] 

Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president.[7] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[8]

Jay C. Hormel died in 1954.[9] The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president. [10] During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:14, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ {{cite web |url=https://www.newspapers.com/image/396786454/?terms=george%2Bhormel%2B1860%2Bbuffalo%2Bnew%2Byork%7Ctitle=G.A. Hormel, Meat Packing Founder, Dies|author=|date=June 6, 1946|website=Newspapers.com|publisher=Wisconsin State Journal|(Subscription required.)
  2. ^ "Hormel President 'Self-Made' Like an Alger Boy, Corey Goes to Top". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. July 9, 1946. Retrieved August 30, 2018. Corey, 53, who has been vice president and general manager of the company since 1938, was advanced to the presidency Monday by the board of directors. As president of the Hormel company he succeeds Jay C. Hormel who was made chairman of the board to fill the position held by his father, George A. Hormel, founder of the organization, who died June 5. R.F. Gray, 40, who came to the company from a road construction job as a sausage truck driver, was made executive vice president and general manager.(Subscription required.)
  3. ^ <--Genoways, Ted--> (February 2013). "This Land Is Not Your Land". Harper’s. New York: Harper’s Magazine Foundation. p. 2-11. Retrieved September 6, 2018.
  4. ^ Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Co. ASIN B0006EVC7K.
  5. ^ Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Co. ASIN B0006EVC7K.
  6. ^ "G.A. Hormel, Meat Packing Founder, Dies". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. June 6, 1946. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Los Angeles-The body of multimillionaire George Albert Hormel, 87, will be sent to Austin, Minn., birthplace of his meat packing house chain, for burial after funeral services today at his palatial Bel Air mansion. Mr. Hormel died late Wednesday at Good Samaritan hospital… Mr. Hormel had lived quietly at Bel Air since he retired from active management of his meat company in 1926.(Subscription required.)
  7. ^ "Hormel President 'Self-Made' Like an Alger Boy, Corey Goes to Top". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. July 9, 1946. Retrieved September 26, 2018. Corey, 53, who has been vice president and general manager of the company since 1938, was advanced to the presidency Monday by the board of directors. As president of the Hormel company he succeeds Jay C. Hormel who was made chairman of the board to fill the position held by his father, George A. Hormel, founder of the organization, who died June 5. R.F. Gray, 40, who came to the company from a road construction job as a sausage truck driver, was made executive vice president and general manager.(Subscription required.)
  8. ^ <--Genoways, Ted--> (February 2013). "This Land Is Not Your Land". Harper’s. New York: Harper’s Magazine Foundation. p. 2-11. Retrieved September 26, 2018.
  9. ^ <!—unknown--> (August 31, 1954). "Jay C. Hormel". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. Retrieved September 17, 2018. Jay C. Hormel, 61, head of the George A. Hormel meat packing firm, died Monday after a long illness. Mr. Hormel, son of the founder of the firm, had suffered more than a year with a heart condition.(Subscription required.)
  10. ^ <!—Special to the Minneapolis Tribune--> (April 19, 1955). "New President Chosen for Hormel Firm". Newspapers.com. Minneapolis Morning Tribune. Retrieved September 17, 2018. R.F. Gray, executive vice president of Geo. A. Hormel & Co., Monday was elected president of the 64-year-old meat-packing firm. H.H. Corey, president since 1946, will continue as chairman of the board and chief executive officer. Gray, 49, is the fourth president in the firm's history. George A. Hormel, the founder, headed the company for 38 years and after him his son Jay C Hormel was president until Corey took over in 1946.(Subscription required.)
  11. ^ <!—unlisted--> (April 17, 1959). "Hormel Wins Approval of Human Processes". Newspapers.com. The Honolulu Advertiser. Retrieved September 26, 2018. The Hormel Co. of Austin, Minn. Yesterday became the first packinghouse with nationwide distribution to receive the American Human Assn's seal of approval for humane processing of animals… The Hormel Co. last March 24 completed facilities by which lambs and calves were given anesthesia before shackling and dispatching. It pioneered this method with hogs in 1952, first in the world to do so. It began to use the bolt gun for stunning cattle in 1957. All of its several million meat animals a year purchased from farmers are now handled in these advanced humane techniques. The American Human Assn. is a federation of 507 humane organizations in the United States and Canada.(Subscription required.)

 

Reply 26-SEP-2018

   Edit request partially implemented  

  1.  N The Founders death and the executive reshuffle between Jay C. and HH was already implemented.
  2.  Y The death of Jay C. and the executive reshuffle between Corey and Grey was given the new references.
  3.  N The information regarding the expansion during Grey's tenure could not be added because it is not referenced.
  4.  N The Freemont packing company could not be added because the page is not given.
  5.  N The claim regarding anesthetizing could not be given the new reference because it is not formatted correctly.

 Spintendo  05:13, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #1

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Hello, I would like to update the source – thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270 [1]

Add: In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter. [2] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 15:27, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Co. ASIN B0006EVC7K.
  2. ^ <!—unlisted--> (April 17, 1959). "Hormel Wins Approval of Human Processes". Newspapers.com. The Honolulu Advertiser. Retrieved September 27, 2018. The Hormel Co. of Austin, Minn. Yesterday became the first packinghouse with nationwide distribution to receive the American Human Assn's seal of approval for humane processing of animals… The Hormel Co. last March 24 completed facilities by which lambs and calves were given anesthesia before shackling and dispatching. It pioneered this method with hogs in 1952, first in the world to do so. It began to use the bolt gun for stunning cattle in 1957. All of its several million meat animals a year purchased from farmers are now handled in these advanced humane techniques. The American Human Assn. is a federation of 507 humane organizations in the United States and Canada.(Subscription required.)

 

 Reply 18:25, 27 September 2018 (UTC) 

I've added this reference in addition to the existing one. I think anything which was thought of as humane in 1959 needs to have backup references.

 Spintendo  18:25, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #2

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Hello, I would like to possibly shorten the wording for Jay C.’s death by removing the month and date. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954.[28][1]

Add: Jay C. Hormel died in 1954.[2]  Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ <!—unknown--> (August 31, 1954). "Jay C. Hormel". Wisconsin State Journal. Wisconsin State Journal.(Subscription required.)
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (August 31, 1954). "Jay C. Hormel". Newspapers.com. Wisconsin State Journal. Retrieved September 27, 2018. Jay C. Hormel, 61, head of the George A. Hormel meat packing firm, died Monday after a long illness. Mr. Hormel, son of the founder of the firm, had suffered more than a year with a heart condition.

 

  Done  Spintendo  18:29, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, I would like to update the source to a non-Hormel one for the “Key people” side bar listing James Snee as Chairman, President, CEO. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO)[1][1] 

Add: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO)[2]  Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Hormel foods announces retirement of Jeffrey M. Ettinger as Chairman of the Board". The National Provisioner. 27 September 2017. Archived from the original on 5 July 2018.
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (December 22, 2017). "CEO Pay Watch". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved September 27, 2018. James Snee Hormel Foods Corp. Chairman, president, CEO Total compensation: $3,114,003 for the year ended Oct. 31 Salary: $848,940 Bonus: $400 Nonequity incentive pay: $2,108,771 Other compensation: $144,097 Exercised stock options: $10,795 New stock options: 277,400 Total fiscal 2017 shareholder return: -17.4 percent Note: Snee became chairman, president and CEO effective Nov. 20, 2016. {{cite web}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 113 (help)(Subscription required.)

 

Company related sources are perfectly acceptable for these types of claims.  Spintendo  20:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

@Spintendo: is it ok to replace the company source with a new one? I am hoping to lower the 16 sources that are linked directly to Hormel. This is one of them, correct? Thank you.Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:31, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

To do list question

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Hi there,

How do I see which of the 18 sources are Hormel-centric in the WP to do list? Feel like I am chipping away at them but would love to check the list.

Thank you!Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 02:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

  1. "Hormel Foods Corporation - Form 10Q: Consolidated Statements of Financial Position". www.sec.gov. Securities and Exchange Commission. 29 April 2018.[note 1]
  2. "Hormel Foods Corporation (HRL)". Yahoo! Finance.[note 2]
  3. Dougherty, Richard (1966). In Quest of Quality: Hormel's First 75 Years. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Company. ASIN B0006BOWUW. OCLC 988269.[note 3]
  4. "Hormel Good cheer ad". Good Housekeeping. New York: International Magazine Company. July 1916. Retrieved 27 August 2018.[note 4]
  5. Lund, Doniver (1990). The Hormel Legacy: 100 Years of Quality. Austin, Minnesota: Geo A. Hormel & Co. ASIN B0006EVC7K. OCLC 23458845.[note 5]
  6. "Hormel, Herdez Del Fuerte Launch MegaMex Foods". PreparedFoods.com. 6 July 2009. Retrieved 3 January 2013.[note 6]
  7. Selcke, Taylor (1 February 2012). "Hormel's MegaMex Foods sales up 150 percent". www.bizjournals.com (Press release). Minneapolis/St.Paul Business Journal.[note 7]
  8. "MegaMex Foods Announces Close of Don Miguel Foods Acquisition Hormel Foods". Hormel Foods (Press release). 6 October 2010.[note 8]
  9. "MegaMex Foods Announces Close of Fresherized Foods Acquisition". Reuters. 22 August 2011.[dead link][note 9]
  10. "Hormel Foods Earns Top Marks in 2016 Corporate Equality Index Hormel Foods". Hormel Foods (Press release). 18 November 2015.[note 10]
  11. Mayle, Mary Carr (28 April 2016). "Diamond Crystal Brands changing hands". businessinsavannah.com. Retrieved 15 June 2017.[note 11]
  12. "Smithfield Foods finalizes acquisition of Clougherty Packing from Hormel Foods". Food Business News. 4 January 2017. Retrieved 5 October 2017. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)[note 12]
  13. Baldus, Chris (26 December 2017). "Hormel aims to continue evolving in the new year - Austin Daily Herald". Austin Daily Herald.[note 13]
  14. "Hormel Foods Develops Innovative Protein Product to Address Childhood Malnutrition". Hormel Foods (Press release). 30 March 2011.[note 14]
  15. "Shocking Undercover Video Shows Piglets Mutilated And Abused At Hormel Pork Supplier". PR Newswire (Press release). 31 Jan 2017. Retrieved 31 January 2017.[note 15]
  16. U.S. Trademark 1,417,607[note 16]
  17. "Corey Resigns; Gray Board Chairman and Thompson President". Austin Daily Herald. Vol. 74, no. 213. Austin, Minnesota. 20 July 1965.[note 17]
  18. No author (July 10, 2004). "New Hormel chief ready to dig in to challenges, former Jennie-O official to take over as president, COO". St. Cloud Times. St. Cloud Times. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)[note 18]
  19. No author (June 7, 2016). "Hormel continues to 'innovate and adapt'". FoodBusinessNews.com. Sosland Publishing. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help)[note 19]


  1. ^ Information given to the SEC comes from Hormel-produced financial records. References 5 notes.
  2. ^ Yahoo gets this information from Hormel. References 1 note.
  3. ^ Book is published by Hormel. References 8 notes.
  4. ^ This is a Hormel advertisement. References 1 note.
  5. ^ Book is published by Hormel. References 5 notes.
  6. ^ PreparedFoods.com is run by BNP Media, a B2B related company which reports on / has involvement with packaged food providers like Hormel, and thus is industry related. References 1 note.
  7. ^ The information in this article was based on a Hormel-issued press release. References 1 note.
  8. ^ Hormel issued press release. References 1 note.
  9. ^ The Reuters piece is based on a Hormel press release. Note: This reference is a [dead link]. References 1 note.
  10. ^ Hormel issued press release. References 1 note.
  11. ^ The story as written in Business Savannah was based on a press release issued by Hormel. References 1 note.
  12. ^ Industry related publication. References 1 note.
  13. ^ The ADH is a de facto Hormel publication. References 1 note.
  14. ^ Hormel issued press release. References 1 note.
  15. ^ PR Newswire (PR meaning Press Release) reports exclusively from self-issued press releases from hundreds of different businesses. References 1 note.
  16. ^ Trademark info comes from Hormel, who submitted the documents to the Trademark office. References 1 note.
  17. ^ ADH source. References 1 note.
  18. ^ This article is based on an interview with the president and COO of Hormel, and thus is company provided information. References 1 note.
  19. ^ Sosland Publications covers the food industry, and thus is not a neutral source. References 1 note. Reports on company acquisitions, mergers, plans for the future etc., are invariably company-related sources, because it is the company which is giving this information to the publications in the hopes that they publicize it. Publicizing industry related news is how these publications make money. It's a win win situation both for the publication and the company. These issues of connected-ness of the two do not prevent the information from being placed in the article, because in the end, it is the company giving info about itself, which is not a bad thing. Only when the company's voice becomes the dominant voice in the article does there become issues.

 Spintendo  02:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, I would like to update the sources and also make it into two sentences. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: In 2004, Jeffrey M. Ettinger succeeded Johnson as company president and introduced the Billion Dollar Challenge, setting a goal for the company to generate $1 billion in sales from new products by the end of fiscal year 2009.[1][1] 

Add: In 2004, Jeffrey M. Ettinger succeeded Johnson.[2]  Ettinger introduced the Billion Dollar Challenge, setting a goal for the company to generate $1 billion in sales from new products by 2009. [3]  Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Hormel foods announces retirement of Jeffrey M. Ettinger as Chairman of the Board". The National Provisioner. 27 September 2017. Archived from the original on 5 July 2018.
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (July 10, 2004). "New Hormel chief ready to dig in to challenges, former Jennie-O official to take over as president, COO". Newspapers.com. St. Cloud Times. Retrieved September 27, 2018. Although it'll be another year before the new president and chief operating officer of Hormel Foods Corp. ascends to chief executive, Jeffrey Ettinger says he hopes for a long stay there… He takes over the duties of president from Joel Johnson, 60, as part of a transition toward retirement… Johnson had been president of Hormel since 1992.(Subscription required.)
  3. ^ <!—unknown--> (June 7, 2016). "Hormel continues to 'innovate and adapt'". foodbusinessnews.com. Sosland Publishing. Retrieved September 27, 2018. Jeffrey M. Ettinger, chief executive officer of Hormel, in 2000 launched the Billion Dollar Challenge, which was for Hormel Foods to generate $1 billion in sales from new products launched between fiscal year 2000 and fiscal year 2009. By the end of fiscal year 2007, Hormel Foods had more than $1 billion generated from new product sales, prompting the company to set a goal to achieve $2 billion in sales by 2012. With that goal also achieved, the company now has its sights set on $3 billion in new product sales by 2016.(Subscription required.)

 

  Done  Spintendo  04:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #5

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to shorten this slightly and also update the source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: In late 2016, Hormel sold Clougherty Packing, owner of the Farmer John and Saag's brands, to Smithfield Foods, with the sale closing in January 2017.[61][1] 

Add: Hormel sold Clougherty Packing, owner of the Farmer John and Saag's brands, to Smithfield Foods, in 2016.[2]  Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Smithfield Foods finalizes acquisition of Clougherty Packing from Hormel Foods". Food Business News. 4 January 2017. Retrieved 5 October 2017.
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (November 22, 2016). "Smithfield Foods to buy Farmer John from Hormel". Newspapers.com. St. Louis Dispatch. Retrieved September 27, 2018. Smithfield Foods will buy Farmer John and Saag's Specialty Meats brands, and farm operations in three states from Hormel Foods Corp. for $145 million in cash. Smithfield will buy Clougherty Packing, the owner of Farmer John and Saag's, as well as hog farm operations in California, Arizona and Wyoming.(Subscription required.)

 

 Reply 05:31, 28 September 2018 (UTC) 

The dates of closing are odd here, having been moved from occurring in January 2017 in the proposed deleted version to having occurred in "2016" in the proposed new version. The proposed-deleted source is dated Jan-4-2017 and would know about the date of closing, as that was when it occurred. But the new source was written Nov-22-2016 and could not have known about the closing, because at the time it was published (Nov-2016) it hadn't closed yet.

 Spintendo  05:31, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 28, #1

Latest comment: 6 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello, I would like to update the source in the “Key people” side bar listing James Snee as Chairman, President, CEO. While I understand that the company source is acceptable, I have been working at lowering the 20 sources that are linked to Hormel. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO)[1][1] 

Add: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO)[2] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 15:41, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Hormel foods announces retirement of Jeffrey M. Ettinger as Chairman of the Board". The National Provisioner. 27 September 2017. Archived from the original on 5 July 2018.
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (December 22, 2017). "CEO Pay Watch". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved September 28, 2018. James Snee Hormel Foods Corp. Chairman, president, CEO Total compensation: $3,114,003 for the year ended Oct. 31 Salary: $848,940 Bonus: $400 Nonequity incentive pay: $2,108,771 Other compensation: $144,097 Exercised stock options: $10,795 New stock options: 277,400 Total fiscal 2017 shareholder return: -17.4 percent Note: Snee became chairman, president and CEO effective Nov. 20, 2016. {{cite web}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 113 (help)(Subscription required.)

 

Reply 29-SEP-2018

   Edit request implemented  

  • The maintenance tag is not a badge of shame. It merely identifies articles where correctable issues are being worked on, which you and I have been doing to great effect. The percentage was at 54% and has now dropped to 35% — meaning in two months time 1⁄5 of the reference notes linked to Hormel have been replaced by independent sources.  Spintendo  04:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 3, #1

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to update the source so that is not an industry source and more verifiable and neutral. I also shortened the text slightly. For example, the phrase “undercover” is used twice. Also updated the date, since the video was shot in 2016 but released in January 2017. Note the new source does not confirm the “piglets with no room to move trampling each other in crowded hallways” statement. Perhaps we can keep the Mercy for Animals link but add the three new sources, if you think that is best? Thank you.

Suggested new info: Delete: In January 2016, Mercy For Animals released undercover footage of pigs being abused at a Hormel pork supplier. The undercover video shows piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries, piglets with no room to move trampling each other in crowded hallways, and mother pigs crammed into filthy gestation crates unable to move.[74]"Shocking Undercover Video Shows Piglets Mutilated And Abused At Hormel Pork Supplier". PR Newswire (Press release). 31 Jan 2017. Retrieved 31 January 2017.[note 15]

Add: In 2017, Mercy For Animals released undercover video footage of pigs being abused at a Hormel pork supplier, with piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries, and mother pigs crammed into gestation crates unable to move.

[1] 

[2] 

[3]  Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:22, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ <!—Tom Meersman and Kristin Leigh Painter--> (February 1, 2017). "Key Hormel supplier is accused of abusing pigs". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved October 3, 2018. An international animal welfare group claims that a supplier of pigs to Hormel Foods Corp. had treated the animals cruelly, and called on the Austin-based company to immediately require changes from its suppliers. Hormel suspended its buying from the supplier, the Maschoffs, until a "thorough investigation" is completed. Mercy For Animals on Tuesday presented an undercover video that showed workers castrating piglets and slicing off their tails, which the group said was done without any pain relief and caused injuries and illnesses that were not treated. The 3-minute video also showed mother pigs in gestation crates with little room to move and biting on the steel bars.(Subscription required.)
  2. ^ <!—Tom Meersman--> (February 13, 2017). "Hog care under a microscope". Newspapers.com. Star Tribune. Retrieved October 4, 2018. Protests against confinement of pregnant sows and treatment of pigs are not new, but they were brought to the surface again two weeks ago when the international animal welfare group Mercy for Animals presented undercover video of what it called cruelty to pigs and sows by a Hormel supplier in Oklahoma, the Maschhoffs. Both Hormel and Maschhoffs said they have strict codes of conduct and policies related to animal care, and both launched investigations.(Subscription required.)
  3. ^ <!—staff--> (February 1, 2017). "Hormel stops taking pigs from Oklahoma operation". Newspapers.com. The Daily Oklahoman. Retrieved October 4, 2018. An animal rights group released undercover video from a farm the supplier owns showing pigs in crowded pens…. The video was released by Mercy for Animals, which said the footage showed abuse. It also shows male piglets being castrated – a common practice in hog farming. Mercy for Animals objected because it said the procedure was done without providing pain relief. Footage also showed the use of gestation crates, which keep pregnant sows confined. Hormel had already pledged to do away with the metal enclosures at its own farms.(Subscription required.)

 

Reply 03-OCT-2018

  Done

 Spintendo  03:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 3, #2

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to update the source in the side bar listing Hormel Food Corporation to make the article with fewer sources that are linked to Hormel. 

It looks like this reference and footnote was first requested by me in June 28, 2018: “From the introduction, please move "The company was founded as George A. Hormel & Company in Austin by George A. Hormel in 1891[8].https://www.immigrantentrepreneurship.org/entry.php?rec=130 It changed its name to Hormel Foods in 1995[9]." https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HRL/profile/ “ Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Footnotes / references [3][1]

Add: Footnotes / references[2] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:13, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Hormel Foods Corporation (HRL)". Yahoo! Finance.
  2. ^ Turner, Tyya (2005). Vault Guide to the Top Consumer Products Employers. New York, New York: Vault. ISBN 1581313233. In 1993, the company officially changed its name from Geo. A. Hormel & Company to the simplified Hormel Foods.

 

Reply 03-OCT-2018

  Not done

It's not clear from this request what's to be done here. For example, under "Suggested new info" you have directions to both add and delete information. For the purposes of edit requests, deleted information ought not be considered "new". For clarity, please consider separating addition and deletion sections from each other in edit requests.

 Spintendo  03:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 4, #3

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to update the source so that is not an industry source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's list of the "100 best corporate citizens" for 10 consecutive years.[65][1] 

Add: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's "100 best corporate citizens" list for 10 consecutive years.[2]  [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:38, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Baldus, Chris (26 December 2017). "Hormel aims to continue evolving in the new year - Austin Daily Herald". Austin Daily Herald.
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (May 7, 2018). "Hormel Foods Ranked No. 16 on the 100 Best Corporate Citizens List". Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. Retrieved October 4, 2018. Hormel Foods Corporation (NYSE: HRL) today announced that it was ranked No. 16 on the 19th annual Corporate Responsibility (CR) Magazine 100 Best Corporate Citizens List. This is the 10th consecutive year the company has been on the list and the fourth time the company has been in the top 20. The roster recognizes the standout environmental, social and governance (ESG) performance of public companies across the U.S. The 100 Best Corporate Citizens List documents 260 ESG data points of disclosure and performance measures – harvested from publicly available information in seven categories: environment, climate change, employee relations, human rights, governance, finance, and philanthropy and community support. The list ranks the Russell 1000 Index. {{cite web}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 171 (help)
  3. ^ <!—staff--> (May 7, 2018). "100 Best Corporate Citizens 2018" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 2. Retrieved October 4, 2018.
  4. ^ <!—staff--> (March/April 2017). "100 Best Corporate Citizens 2017" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 1. Retrieved October 4, 2018. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  5. ^ <!—staff-->. "CR's 100 Best Corporate Citizens 2016" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 2. Retrieved October 4, 2018.
  6. ^ <!—staff--> (March/April 2015). "CR's 100 Best Corporate Citizens 2015" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 3. Retrieved October 4, 2018. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  7. ^ <!—staff--> (March/April 2014). "CR's 100 Best Corporate Citizens 2014" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 4. Retrieved October 4, 2018. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  8. ^ <!—staff-->. "CR's 100 Best Corporate Citizens 2013" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 2. Retrieved October 4, 2018. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)
  9. ^ <!—staff-->. "CRO's 100 Best Corporate Citizens 2009" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 2. Retrieved October 4, 2018. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

 

Reply 04-OCT-2018

  Declined per WP:TOOMANYREFS

 Spintendo  01:44, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 4, #1

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to update the source in the side bar listing the footnote so that it’s one less Hormel-centric source. It looks like this source was originally used to show the founding date as well as name change date.

Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Footnotes / references [3][1]

Add: Footnotes / references[2] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:13, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Hormel Foods Corporation (HRL)". https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HRL/profile/ Yahoo! Finance.
  2. ^ Turner, Tyya (2005). Vault Guide to the Top Consumer Products Employers. New York, New York: Vault. ISBN 1581313233. Founded in 1891 as Geo. A. Hormel & Company by George A. Hormel, a young entrepreneur and the son of German immigrants, the company introduced its first processed food product in 1903 and sold its first canned ham in 1926…. In 1993, the company officially changed its name from Geo. A. Hormel & Company to the simplified Hormel Foods.

 

Reply 04-OCT-2018

 Y I have removed the Yahoo note and reference entry since it was not attached to any one item in the infobox.

 Spintendo  03:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 4, #2

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, wonder if we can move a paragraph from the “History” section to the “Allegations of Animal Abuse section”. Thank you.

Here is the paragraph:

In 2015, after an undercover investigation at a Minnesota processing plant, Hormel Foods announced it was bringing humane handling officers to the QPP facility to ensure compliance with its own animal welfare standards. It has also told QPP to provide extra training, enhance compliance oversight and increase third-party auditing. QPP announced plans to strengthen its video monitoring system and improve animal handling equipment.[57][1] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Na, Danny (12 November 2015). "U.S. supplier to Hormel tightens controls after animal abuse video". Reuters. Thomson Reuters. Retrieved 19 November 2015.

 

Reply 04-OCT-2018

  Implemented

 Spintendo  03:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 5, #1

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, I would like to update the source so that is not an industry source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's list of the "100 best corporate citizens" for 10 consecutive years.[65][1] 

Add: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's "100 best corporate citizens" list for 10 consecutive years.[2]  [3] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 15:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Baldus, Chris (26 December 2017). "Hormel aims to continue evolving in the new year - Austin Daily Herald". Austin Daily Herald.
  2. ^ <!—unknown--> (May 7, 2018). "Hormel Foods Ranked No. 16 on the 100 Best Corporate Citizens List". Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. Retrieved October 4, 2018. Hormel Foods Corporation (NYSE: HRL) today announced that it was ranked No. 16 on the 19th annual Corporate Responsibility (CR) Magazine 100 Best Corporate Citizens List. This is the 10th consecutive year the company has been on the list and the fourth time the company has been in the top 20. The roster recognizes the standout environmental, social and governance (ESG) performance of public companies across the U.S. The 100 Best Corporate Citizens List documents 260 ESG data points of disclosure and performance measures – harvested from publicly available information in seven categories: environment, climate change, employee relations, human rights, governance, finance, and philanthropy and community support. The list ranks the Russell 1000 Index. {{cite web}}: line feed character in |quote= at position 171 (help)
  3. ^ <!—staff-->. "CRO's 100 Best Corporate Citizens 2009" (PDF). Corporate Responsibility Magazine. 3BL Media. p. 2. Retrieved October 4, 2018. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help)

 

Reply 05-OCT-2018

  Implemented

 Spintendo  02:38, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 5, #2

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello, can we add a line break to the history text? Thank you. Suggested new info:

George A. Hormel (born 1860 in Buffalo, New York) worked in a Chicago slaughterhouse before becoming a traveling wool and hide buyer. His travels took him to Austin and he decided to settle there, borrow $500, and open a meat business.[3] Hormel handled the production side of the business and his partner, Albert Friedrich, handled the retail side. The two dissolved their partnership in 1891 so that Hormel could start a complete meat packing operation on his own.[4] He opened George A. Hormel & Co. in the northeast part of Austin in an old creamery building[5] on the Cedar River.[6] 

Add: line break here.

To make ends meet in those early days, Hormel continued to trade in hides, eggs, wool, and poultry. Joining George in November 1891 was his youngest brother, Benjamin, age 14. By the end of 1891 Hormel employed six men and had slaughtered and sold 610 head of livestock. By 1893, the increased use of refrigerator cars and greater efficiency had forced smaller businesses to collapse. Two additional Hormel brothers, Herman and John, joined the business that same year, and together they processed 1,532 hogs. The remaining members of the Hormel family moved to Austin in 1895 and joined the growing business. George turned to full-time management in 1899, and focused on increasing production.[7] 

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


Reply 05-OCT-2018

  Implemented

 Spintendo  02:38, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

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