Talk:Horndean

Shortname discussion

Why is most every village in Britain is just called what it is, but Cincinnati(which links to over 700 articles) is a redirect to Cincinnati, Ohio? There's no other article called Cincinnati in Wikipedia.--T. Anthony 15:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

That has literally nothing to do with this page. Why don't you make this point on the Cincinatti page yourself?--WhoIzzet 19:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Well it sort of does have something to do with this page. I'm curious why little towns in Britain, like this one, are just called by their name with no qualifier of what country they're in. Is there a reason?--T. Anthony 08:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

This nothing to do with this page and you should ask Cincinatti or take part in the discussion on Naming conventions, however my guess is that they have named their page with both the place and location, but there was probably no need to do so (check using the 'what links to this' page) and could probably be a shortname. At the moment there are no other Horndean's so there is no need to disambiguate the page or extend the name from the shortname and so fits the naming convention. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places) Ben 20:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

You make good points and I think I understand it better now,--T. Anthony 16:43, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Horndean Name Meaning - History

There has been a change in the details of how the name of Horndean came about with different ideas. The 'original' was "The name Horndean is believed to mean `valley by a horn-shaped hill`. Dean refers to the old English word denu meaning valley. The horn-shaped hill is most likely Horndean Down."

This has been replaced by "The name Horndean is such because of two reasons. The first part of the name "Horn" is associated when the old queen would travel down to portsmouth, she would often stay in Horndean, and A "Horn" would be blown to signal her arrival. The second part, "Dean" is the meaning of forest, or large amount of trees which used to exist in horndean before in expanded."

Neither has a reference or citation.

Personally the 'new' reasoning seems to be less likely.

I have done some investigation and got this after writing to the institute for name studies at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/english/ins/ "Horndean is made up of two elements, hearma 'a dormouse' or Hearma a name or nickname from the same source, + denu 'a deep valley'; so it either means 'Hearma's valley', or 'valley of the dormouse'. You might think that dormice are strange things to name a valley after, but some landscape features are named after beetles, lice and other fauna, so there are many parallels."

I propose to replace the current entry with the first part of this statement and somehow cite the email (not sure how to do this - can you cite emails?) What does everybody think? Ben 21:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

De facto parish church

Here is stated "The de facto parish church is All Saints in neighbouring Catherington." Holy Trinity in Blendworth is closer - cannot this be cited as the de facto parish church?--User:Brenont (talk) 03:47, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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