Talk:House of Lords Reform Act 2014

Resignation or retirement?

The first para states 'resign' but the table states 'retirements'. What is the correct term? --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 00:33, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

The Act allows "... a peer may retire or otherwise resign ...". My understanding is that Lord Ashcroft and perhaps others, resigned rather than retired. Should the table reflect the correct term? --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 00:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Both terms are used, but only 'retirement' is used in the list of the House of Lords in in http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/lords/retired-lords/. Retirement and resignation both have the same procedure and the same effect. --Editor FIN (talk) 12:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry but I have reverted your changes. It is the Act that specifies the rules not the publicity announcement issued by the HoL. --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 00:15, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I reverted your changes. I agree in principle that the Act specifies the rules, but we can't really know who have retired and who have resigned. Any known official source hasn't announced them separately. And as the procedure and the effect of retirement and resignation is same, separating them isn't very important. --Editor FIN (talk) 04:28, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok but I have added in 'resignation' into the column heading as I think this satisfies both our thinking on this. --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 00:49, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

That's fine. --Editor FIN (talk) 03:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Should the resignation or retirement years be in the 'member in house' column? --Gavin Lisburn (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

I understand, but it would just repeat information that is already in the 'Date of retirement or resignation' column. --Editor FIN (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Post-Lords Peerage Column in Table

[User: Farolif] This column has been added to the table without an explanation of its purpose. The colour 'silver' has not been explained either. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 14:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Replying here to add my frustration about the silver background in some cells in the "post-lords peerage" column -- it's not labelled and it's not clear at all what it's supposed to mean. For that matter it's not clear what "post-lords peerage" is itself supposed to mean! Does this mean how long the person lived and held a peerage after leaving the Lords? I'm not sure that's interesting or useful enough to merit a column here. --Jfruh (talk) 15:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Does this mean how long the person lived and held a peerage after leaving the Lords? Yes, and the shaded background is for peers who are deceased. It's no less informative than the previous setup of having a column for the peer's age* upon leaving the Lords, plus -two- columns for the peer's ongoing age, only one of which had any content depending on whether they were still living, thus leaving it to the user to estimate the difference between the values.

* If you want to discuss merit, then let's start with that! Farolif (talk) 21:07, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

You could have explained your explanation and colour key here first. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 15:34, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

If we're discussing the merits, I don't think this is particularly useful or interesting information, in either the current or previous formats. I think the date of resignation and total term in the lords is quite enough. --Jfruh (talk) 01:14, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Sebastian Coe

Pleade add him, he retired on January 31. https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2022-01-31/debates/C8AC87C2-F761-4FFA-A898-2AEC4E5C9BCF/RetirementOfAMemberLordCoe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.238.77.239 (talk) 15:55, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Amendment

I think this should be the table of the peers as you can see Constitutional Reform and Governance Act 2010#Other provisions as an exampe, also I added the links to each life peer and law peer for the colours. I find the current format tired, this my be more detail but I think this will be better. 86.191.235.28 (talk) 21:27, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Tables deleted due to taking up inordinate space; you can view them here. Richard75 (talk) 16:26, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Do we really need this huge list?

The list of people who have resigned from the House of Lords is already absurdly long, and it is only going to get longer every year. What's the point? It may have seemed like a novelty when the first resignations began happening, but this law has been in force for nine years now. No other article about a legislature maintains a list of everyone who has resigned from it. We should just say who was first and leave it at that. Richard75 (talk) 23:57, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I noticed that List of members of the House of Lords already has a list of living members who have resigned, so it might not be necessary to duplicate the same information on two different pages. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 03:03, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Plas rfrain fro diting ikipdia if you ha nothing usful to contribut Th list aks sns as is so plas dont try to dstroy ork lik so any othrs" — Preceding unsigned comment added by HulkNorris (talk • contribs) 13:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Are you having a stroke? Richard75 (talk) 14:12, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Your othr is having a strok! A dfct from my notbook — Preceding unsigned comment added by HulkNorris (talk • contribs) 19:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Well it's been over two weeks and no serious person has objected, so I've deleted it. (I also added the name of the first peer to resign in the lead.) Richard75 (talk) 23:50, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

It looks like someone has moved the old content to List of peers retired and removed under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014, which I'm not really sure is necessary. 98.228.137.44 (talk) 20:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

See the continued discussion (if you like) on my talk page at User talk:Richard75#Creating a separate page of House of Lords Reform Act 2014. I'm thinking of proposing deleting that article. Richard75 (talk) 22:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of peers retired and removed under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014. Richard75 (talk) 23:49, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

The following pages were later made List of peers retired under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014 (2014–2020) and List of peers retired under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014 (2021–present), which again I'm not sure is necessary. 2601:249:9301:D570:9957:7674:7CF6:8DA7 (talk) 00:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Related AFD

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of peers retired and removed under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014, which contains the content spun out from this article. I've also noted that this article doesn't appear to be notable on its own; it should probably just redirect to the appropriate section of Reform of the House of Lords. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Removal of post-removal tracking columns

In this edit I removed columns recording the death dates of persons in the list and a column which calculates the length of time a person has lived or did live after their removal. I do not see the relevance of these to the topic of the article. These columns were restored, without comment by User:47.55.237.217. In accordance with WP:BRD I therefore open this discussion. LukeSurl ^t c 14:27, 30 January 2024 (UTC)