Talk:House of Wessex

Native English

"The House of Wessex was the last native English royal dynasty" is a meaningless statement - The Wessex kings originated in Saxony and were no more English than, say, the Plantagenets. Bagunceiro (talk) 13:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually Bagunceiro|, you are very very wrong the Saxons WERE the English. the name English/England stems from the Angles, who were one of the three main tribes to settle in the former Roman province of Britannia (the three tribes were the Angles, Saxons and the Jutes. also the Frisians but in smaller number, ditto the Geats and some Franks. The Frisians to this day speak a dialect almost similar to Old English). The name comes from Anglalond, land of the Angles. In the time starting from Alfred the Great, right the way through to Edward the Confessor and Harold Godwinson they called themselves Englisc (old English word for English). You are also wrong about their original place of origin, which was Denmark for the Jutes, Angles from Northern Germany (bordering Denmark) and the Saxons from modern day Holland. The Saxons were named from the knives they used, Scramaseax. Not Saxony, this name for the area in Germany is a much much later term. Suggest you read up on history before posting untrue and negetive statements.§ —Preceding unsigned comment added by English n proud (talk • contribs) 18:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

If I understand your argument correctly it appears to be that, because the Angles ultimately gave their name to England, the Saxons were the original English: A non-sequitur there, I think - perhaps you meant they were the original Sassenachs ;-). However, even were we talking about the Angles it would still be wrong to consider them native English simply because of what we call it now. Take a modern example, say North America. We don't consider the European settlers native Americans just because they named the place.

Regarding Saxon origins. It is quite possible that the Saxons were named after the knife, but what is certain is that Saxony (their place of origin, in what is now Lower Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt etc) was named after the Saxons. This is, of course, not to be confused with the modern German state any more than, say, Francia is to be confused with modern day France. More relevant to the matter in question, though, is that Saxon origins were not in England any more than (perhaps less than, really) the Plantagenets' were for example.

And finally there really is no need to personalise things. Bagunceiro (talk) 09:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Extinct?

Is this House now extinct in the male line? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.133.47.188 (talk) 17:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

There is Wessex blood in the existing Danish royal house, and through that relation to our monarchy it still runs through Elizabeth II veins too.§  — Preceding unsigned comment added by English n proud (talk • contribs) 14:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC) 

Should the final ruler be Harold the Second?

Harold the Second was the son of Godwin, the Earl of Essex, I don’t know if that makes him the final ruler, but he was the last Anglo-Saxon king of England so maybe? 84.70.175.240 (talk) 10:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)