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I don't know how to edit the pop ups on the family tree, but the one for Prince Harry currently states that he is the younger son of James Hewitt. Please can someone edit this asap?
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Children of female monarchs take the house of their fathers, but Charles III is listed as part of Windsor on his page and the current head of house Windsor on the House of Windsor page, but then on the Glücksburg page he is listed as a currently reigning monarchs part of House Glücksburg. By all reasonable definition Charles is part of house Glücksburg. Currently we are at an impasse with contradicting articles. If female monarchs could pass on their house then the house of Windsor wouldn't even exist, this logic is insane. Personally I believe it is worth adding Glücksburg to Charles's page alongside Windsor, and mentioning this on the Glücksburg page and the Windsor page. Zenryzap (talk) 02:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Britain has changed succession laws to be gender neutral, changed their branch of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor, and changed the last name of the family to Mountenbatten-Windsor as far as I'm aware, what of that list would make Charles part of Windsor instead of Glücksburg? The best answer I've found says that he is indeed part of house glücksburg, but also windsor because Elizabeth II declared all monarchs descended from George V to be Windsor (is that really "legislation"), and one site said that this makes it a cadet branch, but i'm not entirely sure about that. Either way at least 1 article is wrong. I will admit calling it insane is harsh though. Zenryzap (talk) 04:36, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Royal.UK website directly addresses the royal house name, "Unless The Prince of Wales chooses to alter the present decisions when he becomes king, he will continue to be of the House of Windsor and his grandchildren will use the surname Mountbatten-Windsor." To my knowledge, no such change ever took place, so the official house is still House of Windsor. House name. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 05:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok, on the Glücksburg page it mentions that charles III is only agnatically part of house glücksburg, and in a footnote it states that he reigns as house windsor, so does the windsor page, but Charles III's page doesn't mention Glücksburg at all. If both house pages are in agreement to mention charles's connection to the other house, then shouldn't charles's page include a section about his agnatic hertiage of glucksburg? it should at least be mentioned. Zenryzap (talk) 19:25, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
"Children of female monarchs take the house of their fathers" assumes that all houses operate on the same, i.e. agnatic principles. I think it's clear by George V's 1917 proclamation, Elizabeth II's 1960 proclamation, and current practice that the House of Windsor doesn't currently operate on such principles entirely. Seltaeb Eht (talk) 19:58, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
As long as there is genealogy as a recognized phenomenon, Charles will genealogically belong to the House of Oldenburg (Glücksburg branch). Officially Windsor. We'll have to wait till we hear from him re: any change in what the official dynasty is to be called now. I don't believe that has happened yet. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
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What's the meaning of a "genealogical" membership to a House? Does genealogy have its own secret, universal and eternal set of rules for stating which house a person belongs to, independently from the current rules of the land? Does a child always belong to his father's house, and never ever to his mother's, no matter what the current laws say, for genealogists? If so, is that relevant for this article? --MostroDellaLaguna (talk) 04:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think the current text in the infobox: "The children and male-line descendants of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip genealogically belong to the House of Oldenburg through one of its branches, the House of Glücksburg." is sufficient, more explanatory and fairer than listing two entries, one of which would be slightly misleading without context. DrKay (talk) 18:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
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