Talk:How Do I Live

Let me tell you about Homestuck

This song was covered for the webcomic Homestuck, and released online on the official soundtrack. I think that's worth mentioning. Manfroze (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Seconded. I will put it in, and if anyone disagrees they can just take it out again. Sheavsey33 (talk) 07:20, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Accuracy of Detail?

Some of these facts seem a bit off to me. I know there was a Rimes/Yearwood question as to which version would end up in the film, but I do not think that anything happened without Rimes's knowledge. The article makes it sound as if Yearwood and her company acted in some unethical way, whereas in actuality nothing sinister occurred with the release of either version, to my knowledge. If there was a scandal, I'd like to see reliable documentation of it. GassyGuy 03:23, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Reason for the Yearwood recording

As I recall the reports regarding this song; the producers felt that the passion & emotion in Rimes version might be construed as improper for the then 14 year old and subsequently ask Yearwood for a recording. Obviously the public didn't feel the same as the Rimes version far outsold the Yearwood version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Golfingdaddy (talk • contribs) 19:18, 21 November 2006

True, but the Yearwood single, with its tasty steel guitar accents, was the version used in the Con Air soundtrack and was prefered overwhelmingly by discerning Country music radio listerners. As the article states, Yearwood's single was prematurely pulled out of sales circulation by her record label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.190.238.4 (talk) 23:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Yearwood's version was used in the film you mean not the soundtrack lol! Swifty*^talk_contribs 04:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Acronyms should be avoided

Could someone please give the details of what MCA, the CMAs, and ACM are? I find the end of the article very hard to understand as it is. Thanks, Pruneau^talk 23:18, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Rimes v. Curb Records, Inc., 129 F.Supp.2d 984 (N.D. Tex. 2001)

OPINION BY: JERRY BUCHMEYER

OPINION MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER

Plaintiff Margaret LeAnn Rimes ("LeAnn Rimes" or "Ms. Rimes") seeks a declaratory judgment against Defendant Curb Records Inc. ("Curb") to disaffirm a recording contract she entered into as a minor on April 27, 1995. This Court has diversity jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C.A. sec 1332. Now before this Court is Defendant's Motion to Dismiss, or in the alternative. Motion to Transfer Venue, pursuant to Rule 12(b) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure and 28 U.S.C. sec 1404(a) and sec 1406. For the reasons stated below, Defendant's Motion to Dismiss is DENIED and its Motion to Transfer Venue is GRANTED.

STATEMENT OF FACTS

(To be sung to the tune of LeAnn Rimes, "How Do I Live." & (r) 1997 Curb Records, Inc.)

LeAnn Rimes

A very rich and famous star

Wasn't so rich in times afar

But what a talent she had!

Enter Curb n1

To sign a contract, they hoped

After her talent they scoped

They saw the cash in her eyes

But LeAnn

Who at twelve was hardly dumb herself

Wanted to retain her future wealth

Oh

If you could have seen

Baby those attorneys changed everything

But so many lines!

They missed one thing.

CHORUS # 1

Why did you sign, LeAnn Rimes? n2

So long ago

Off on that choice of forum? n3

Your attorneys didn't know?

They made lots of changes, but one thing survived...

Forum clause, to that clause, what weight do we give?

INSTRUMENTAL INTERLUDE

VERSE # 3

Many times

Back and forth from judge to attorney n4

Both in Texas and in Tennessee n5

There was so much to review.

And LeAnn

With a guardian to oversee n6

She disavowed her own minority n7

Oh

Now she believes

Her age will invalidate everything n8

She ever signed

We must decide

CHORUS # 2

How do we read the forum clause?

Binding or no?

How could she see, at age twelve

Or truly know

That the Curb-Rimes relations, would never survive?

Forum clause, to that clause, how much weight do we give? n9

LEGAL ANALYSIS

(To be sung to the tune of LeAnn Rimes, "I Need You" (r) 2000, Curb Records, Inc.)

The law ain't clear on lots of things

Sometimes it tells you nothing

To their arguments the parties cling

You never know what motions bring

But we've got all we need to decide on this venue

Forum selection clauses, they point us towards the truth

CHORUS # 1:

That Venue! A clause, clear to all to see

That Venue! It says "go to Tennessee."

There's a freedom of contract, that carries on to

The Venue

VERSE # 2

State courts never liked these things

They never found them valid n10

But revolution the High Court can bring

Changed that policy -- the High Court did

They first upheld a forum clause, in admiralty n11

Then they pushed the holding, to cases in diversity n12

CHORUS # 2

Then came Shute! n13 Slip- and-fall, while on a cruise

That darn Shute! Filed in Washington, they lose

The ticket said "you come to Florida, if you want a suit"

That darn Shute

VERSE # 3

Now LeAnn has arguments

That there's a balancing of interests n14

That her case has a twisted bent

That her minor status ends this mess

But minority can't void this clause before the case is tried n15

And the Fifth Circuit has spoken, balancing tests won't fly n16

CHORUS # 3

Through and through! Mitsui n17 Amplicon, n18 Kessmann n19

Require proof! She's not met the burden.

While there's freedom as a judge, re-inventing the rule

I won't do.

CONCLUSION

(Also to be sung to the tune of LeAnn Rimes, "How [**12] Do I Live." & (r) 1997, Curb Records, Inc.

How Do I

Deem this forum the right place

If I were to sit and hear this case

What kind of judge would I be?

Although I

Would love to meet LeAnn Rimes

It's gonna have to be another time.

Oh

This case must now leave n20

Baby you must take away everything

Away from my court

I order now

CHORUS

This case now lives in Tennessee n21

Following Ricoh n22

The Middle District of Tennessee

Not because I say so.

'Cause forum clauses forever, ever survive!

'Cause that's the way, that's the way, that's the way the law is. n23

n23 Credit for both the words and the lyrics in this opinion goes entirely to my law clerk, Elizabeth Falk, who is now a devoted LeAnn Rimes fan.

IT IS SO ORDERED

Is it a courtroom or a Karaoke nightclub! -- Toytoy 22:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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How Do I Live is a non-album single

You Light Up My Life: Inspirational Songs official track listing goes as such:

No.	Title	Writer(s)	Length
1.	"You Light Up My Life"	Joe Brooks	3:37
2.	"The Rose"	Amanda McBroom	3:33
3.	"Bridge Over Troubled Waters"	Paul Simon	4:40
4.	"I Believe"	Ervin Drake, Irvin Graham, Jimmy Shirl, Al Stillman	2:22
5.	"Ten Thousand Angels Cried"	Dave Patillo	3:59
6.	"Clinging to a Saving Hand"	Bill Mack	2:44
7.	"On the Side of Angels"	Gary Burr, Gerry House	3:49
8.	"I Know Who Holds Tomorrow"	Ira Stanphill	4:41
9.	"God Bless America"	Irving Berlin	3:06
10.	"How Do I Live" (Extended Mix)	Diane Warren	4:57
11.	"Amazing Grace" (Traditional)	John Newton	4:06
12.	"National Anthem" (Traditional)	Francis Scott Key	1:59

Extended mix meaning it is NOT The actual song so people need to quit confusing it. Thanks corrected this all over the LeAnn Rimes pages. 184.58.3.213 (talk) 22:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 July 2020

In the "in popular media" section, add the following note: "In January 1998, Los Angeles-born singer Debra Michaels recorded a dance version of the song that reached number 107 on Billboard's Bubbling Under the Hot 100 chart"

Citation: Whitburn, Joel. "Joel Whitburn's Bubbling Under The Billboard Hot 100 1959-2004", Copyright Joel Whitburn, 2005 4632mavis98x (talk) 23:51, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The reference cannot be verified yet, ~ Amkgp 💬 11:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2020

In the "In Popular Media" section add the following notation: In January 1998, Los Angeles based singer Debra Michaels released a dance version of "How Do I Live" that reached #107 on Billboard's Bubbling Under the Hot 100 chart

Under References add: 78^ Joel Whitburn (2005), "Bubbling Under the Hot 100 1959-2004", Record Research Inc., p. 80 4632mavis98x (talk) 00:03, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: generally speaking, notability of items for "In Popular Culture/Media" sections waits until a song enters the corresponding "main" chart. See WP:CHARTS for more information. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:12, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

 Undone: This request has been undone. I made this edit but self-reverted.

@4632mavis98x: It appears the edit is controversial. Please establish a consensus before reopening the request.

@Eggishorn: I couldn't find the part of WP:N or WP:CHARTS pertaining to main chart vs bubbling chart as a bar for notability for inclusion in an existing article. Is there a more specific guideline? Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 18:45, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

@Matt Fitzpatrick: WP:IPCV is the widely-accepted view on "In Popular Culture" sections and WP:NSONG is the notability guideline for songs. NSONG refers to WP:CHARTS and the WP:BILLBOARDCHARTS section makes it clear that the Bubbling Under charts are really just sub-sections of their parent charts which list songs that are not, in themselves, yet notable. It's a bit of a mess, admittedly. If the song stays for an extended time on one of the bubbling under sections or (better yet) rises to the main chart, then its inclusion is non-problematic. The intent of IPC guidelines is not to exclude items that are not notable enough for their own articles but to put at least some form of selectivity in place. What exactly that selectivity level should be is not defined as strongly as Notability itself, but we want to avoid this kind of thing. I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:24, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

All-Time Update

On the all-time portion of Rimes chart section, the overall all-time part or the upper row should be updated from #5 to #6. The date should be changed from 2018 to 2021. The source is List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones. Their citation will be in the comments. 24.180.22.222 (talk) 18:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@24.180.22.222 The external citation is https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/the-weeknd-blinding-lights-all-time-hot-100-1235001770/ Michael Ly Vietnam (talk) 18:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Done. Thank you! --The Human Spellchecker (talk) 22:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Billboard Top Country Singles Sales peaks

In case a registered user wants to add them to the chart history section:

LeAnn Rimes version (peak #1) [[1]]

Trisha Yearwood version (peak #3) [[2]]

2601:180:8200:63D0:D5EE:69C8:9F10:64A (talk) 22:13, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Claims Rimes’ version is a single from You Light Up My Life: Inspirational Songs

I have looked all over the internet trying to find a reliable source that states Rimes’ version of the song was released as a single from You Light Up My Life: Inspirational Songs and I cannot find any source. The CD single was being used as a source on the album’s page, however as the owner of both the original and the reissue of that exact CD single, I can tell you no where on the CD single is there any mention about the album or the song being a single from or that it will appear on the album. Does anyone have an actual source that this song is a single from the album cause I can’t find anything, not even on any of my CDs of hers that state clear out this song is a single from the album. So where’s the source to back the claim? 2600:1015:B13F:BED:B4CF:66FB:DC8:1764 (talk) 09:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I too have the cited CD singles they both mention the album. The discogs and sales pages for the single also show this. Breaktheicees (talk) 01:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)