Talk:Hsieh Su-wei

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"Chinese Taipei" vs. "Taiwan"

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The country designation for Hsieh Su-wei should be "Taiwan" rather than "Chinese Taipei". Yes, organizations like the WTA may designate it as "Chinese Taipei", but where she is from is not dictated by professional sports organizations. This is a geography issue, plain and simple, and she is from Taiwan. Otherwise, her residence should be listed as "Taipei, Chinese Taipei", as well as her place of birth. (Both suggestions are, of course, ludicrous.) Thanks! -Multivariable (talk) 22:51, 2 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Country in infoboxes is the playing nationality of the tennis player. We use the international designation that the Olympics/Wimbledon/FedCup/Davis Cup would use. Plain and simple. Before changing contested info wikipedia pretty much demands you gain consensus on the talk page first. Fyunck(click) (talk) 10:17, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
And yet you reverted (and removed the Wimbledon source [1]) that lists her nationality as "Chinese Taipei (Taiwan)" instead of "Chinese Taipei"? I'm not understanding the guidelines here. Thanks! -Multivariable (talk) 10:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Because the flag was added also. I just added back the name since some sports events do use it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for following up. Then what about other sources that use "Chinese Taipei" but use the Taiwan (Republic of China) flag? [2] [3] Also, for future reference, where could I find the guidelines for international designations of tennis players (or athletes, in general)? Thanks! -Multivariable (talk) 20:17, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
If it's an international competition they always use the Taipei flag. Why some news outlets use otherwise is their own business. When in doubt go to the governing bodies of the sport WTA/ATP/ITF and see what they use. Looking at Hsieh the WTA and ITF demand the use of Chinese Taipei. Per our Guidelines, "flag icons should only be used to show the internationally recognized nationality of players. Flags should not be used to identify tournament location, birthplace, residence, city, venue, etc." Now, 99% of athletes are notable ONLY because of the sport they play. Otherwise they would be like you or me. "If" for instance they were notable for being a famous architect we might have to look a little closer at what to put in the infobox. But then again architects don't get flag icons in the infobox at all. The flag is reserved for ships, international athletics, and a couple other things. Fyunck(click) (talk) 21:16, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
It's Chinese Taipei in world competitions. (Olympic)--333-blue 13:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Playing style

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I am taking out "Hsieh, unlike most other players, is able to play drop shots and slices on clay court successfully."- This is inaccurate. Dropshots are a very common shot to play on clay courts, as with the backspin, the ball bonuce is actually lower than a hard court, so it's often more successful. Likewise, you can play slice shots on a clay court effectively. I think the extract is taken from the Maria Sharapova quote. However, Sharapova was not saying that it's unusual to play these shots on clay, but that it's just unusual that Hsieh plays so many of these shots all the time. Also, Hsieh's slices/dropshots are quite different to other players, as she uses two hands, so she gets even more spin on the ball. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:5A94:2500:D8A2:D11E:324C:3C2A (talk) 21:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)Reply