Talk:Hud (surah)

Latest comment: 4 years ago by SnowFire in topic Status as at 18 December 2019

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(cur | prev) 17:28, 4 March 2019‎ JorgeLaArdilla (talk | contribs)‎ . . (43 bytes) +43‎ . . (JorgeLaArdilla moved page Hud (surah) to Hud (sūrah): add diacritic) (thank) Tag: New redirect

What's going on? Reverted. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 4 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) B dash (talk) 13:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC)Reply



Hud (sūrah)Hūd– Having added a diacritic to the bracketed disambiguator, a non-sequitor would be to leave the main title without its diacritc. Simply moving it to Hūd would do away with the need to have a bracketed disambiguator at all. JorgeLaArdilla (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Not sure what's going on here. Why did you add a diacritic to surah in the first place? Reverted. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Status as at 18 December 2019

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The article needs serious improvement. Refer WP:PG and MOS:ISLAM

The current citation > [Quran 11:58–60 (Translated by Ahmed Ali)] is too cryptic - the citation needs to be more explicit.

What does the article's only citation [1] add to the content?

The article needs subdivisions WP:SECT to enable readers to navigate to it and through it.

Koreangauteng (talk) 22:23, 17 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sometimes Wikipedia editors cite guidelines, but yours don't help at all. What, exactly, of WP:PG do you claim supports your edit? I could just as easily cite WP:PG back at you, and it'd be just as worthless a claim. If you want to improve things with some citations to secondary sources, that is great. I am largely reverting due to the fact you don't seem to be understanding the content of the article at all, e.g. not understanding how citations to the Quran work. That is how they work - you just drop a Cite Quran tag in. You will see similar practices with Template:Bibleverse and the like elsewhere on Wikipedia to make an in-text attribution.
As I mentioned on your talk page, if MOS:ISLAM supports one particular brand of transliteration between chapter/sura/surah/etc. or verse/ayat, feel free to make the change. However. Nobody, nobody uses sections like you are in these sura articles you've been editing. It'd be like creating a novel with "notable pages" and separating it with sections Page 97 / Page 120 / Page 150. That isn't done. To pick random other examples - look at something like Book of Hosea or Tattvartha Sutra or anything else. This is plain bad writing.
If you don't mind, I'd like to go around and revert your changes to other surahs, but I won't if it would just start an edit war. Is there some kind of compromise that can be reached? Again, it's great that you want to help out, but not all contributions are positive; your current ones need some adjustment. Maybe make a Draft version in your sandbox that doesn't separate things out by "notable verses" and makes clear what you are changing? SnowFire (talk) 06:39, 18 December 2019 (UTC)Reply