Talk:Hugh Bourne

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To explain my "citation needed" edit of this page.

While some readings of the various sources, such as Kendall's 1919 history, page 18, speaks of Hugh Bourne's changing the format of services and laying down rules, this was in the context of open-air preaching to evangelise the outsiders. He does not seem to have changed the regular Sunday worship in the same way.

Bourne changed the formality back to what Wesley had done in going outside the walls of the building.

There is, however, evidence that the CAmp Meeting format (Kendall p. 18) did not always apply. For example, Dyson (Wesleyan Methodism in the Leek Circuit) says of Methodism coming to Gratton, "About 1811, 3 poor men from Harriseahead preached in the fields and lanes about Gratton ..." until a church woman invited them to use her house for preaching. A modern example is that the same person may preach on Sunday in a Church using the 1662 Book of Common Prayer, having preached on the street the previous day in a totally informal way.

If the phrase "fit for purpose" comes from one of the recent histories of Primitive Methodism, there ought to be a reference since it is a citation. If it is the words of a Wiki Editor, it risks being an interpretation unless some reference can be given to a recognised history

There is some indication in the final paragraph of Ashworth ch. III of changes Bourne made - adding a prayer meeting after the preaching meeting, and variety into the Class Meeting (which was not a normal Service). Even this does not justify to me the "not fit for purpose" phrase.

Robert of Ramsor (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

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