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Involvement of firm in SS uniform production
when u say that Hugo Boss and HUGO BOSS designed for teh german army in WW1 and WW=II ,So did HUGO BOSS design the uniforms of the Nazi's ??? The SS and other Uniforms ?? Bhansingh
I object that it is presented as fact here that Hugo Boss AG designed and manufactured the SS uniforms. The reference links to another website (americandefenseleague.com) , which claims to be re-printing an article from The Washington Post, but no direct link to TWP or the newspaper on which the TWP article is based is provided.
Searching the Internet for the headline from the supposed article only yields results in blogs that repost and reference the americandefenseleague.com article and (of course) the original ADL article. Given the lack of substance to this website and associated blogs, I don't think it's proper for Wiki to allow this to be posted as a verifiable fact.
If you go to the Holocaust exhibition in the imperial war museum, it tells you about Hugo boss's involvement.
- I guess the above are two persons discussing, but hard to say. Anyway, another source: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B00E4DF153FF936A2575BC0A961958260 Mkro (talk) 18:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I added 2 NYT citations to the Hugo Boss page about this topic, which discusses the use of slave labor by the company. This has been verified by Mr. Boss's son and the company itself.
- The article claims that the Hugo Boss firm designed SS uniforms during WWII. However, the sources cited in the article for this purpose do not state anything about designing - they refer to manufacturing. Unless I'm missing something, the term should be corrected. -The Gnome (talk) 16:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed the article is contradictory in itself as it first states two designers and then says Hugo Boss designed and manufactured the uniforms. I amended the chapter to be in line with the referenced query.nytimes.com article. Hope you'll agree. Wschroedter (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- The term "slave labor" is also utter nonsense, since there was no such thing. And is actually non-neutral terminology in that context. What there possibly was, was forced labor from camps and/or voluntary alien workers, who in some cases couldn't simply cancel their contracts on short notice. They were however in all the cases in formal employments and got paid social insurance in their names. The whole story of slave labor is bogus. --41.151.45.51 (talk) 20:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- What is the difference between "slave labor" and "forced labor from camps"? Are you familiar with the Nazi policy of "extermination through labor"? 190.194.223.134 (talk) 03:11, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- Can you give a citation to support your assertion that there was no such thing as slave labor? 84.227.242.131 (talk) 01:19, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- The term "slave labor" is also utter nonsense, since there was no such thing. And is actually non-neutral terminology in that context. What there possibly was, was forced labor from camps and/or voluntary alien workers, who in some cases couldn't simply cancel their contracts on short notice. They were however in all the cases in formal employments and got paid social insurance in their names. The whole story of slave labor is bogus. --41.151.45.51 (talk) 20:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed the article is contradictory in itself as it first states two designers and then says Hugo Boss designed and manufactured the uniforms. I amended the chapter to be in line with the referenced query.nytimes.com article. Hope you'll agree. Wschroedter (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
The article says "He died in 1948 but his business survived and in 1953, with the demand for SS uniforms gone, the business turned its hand to making suits." This seems to be implying that the firm was making SS uniforms until 1953. Jhobson1 (talk) 10:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- The problem with the current phrasing is that, jumping off from press reports a couple of years ago, the strong impression is given that Boss was the principal or only manufacturer of SS and other Nazi Party uniforms. In fact Boss was only one among hundreds- practically every clothing factory in Germany took on Government and Party contracts under the RZM.Solicitr (talk) 15:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)