Talk:Humani generis unitas

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Is there a source for the English translation of the title? I'd prefer "The Unity of the Human Race" since it is not De ... Unitate and the given translation leaves generis virtually untranslated. Eluchil404 09:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

The "On" is convention for encyclicals. It comes from the genitive. Or whatever latin tense that is. I'll change humanity to human race though. Savidan 16:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

The link here seems to be to the wrong John LaFarge. Jbhood 11:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

He is mentioned in the bottom part of the article about his father. Savidan 16:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

"Silence":

The "silence" of Pius XII towards racial policy is indeed alleged, as Pius XII several times condemned deportations and as he hid Jews in the Vatican and extended diplomatic protection as much as possible in Hungary, Italy, Slovakia and Germany (though in Germany Vatican diplomacy by Cesare Orsenigo was no longer taken seriously and the annexed polish territories were diplomatically unreachable as the Hitler government did not recognize Polish nuncio nor the German nuncio as able to speak for the situaiton in those regions, e.g. Warthegau).Smith2006 14:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I included the word alleged when I first wrote the article but it doesn't matter much either way. Few seriously contend today that Pius condemned the holocaust in any meaningful way; instead, the real debate is about whether his silence was the right approach. Hiding Jews in the Vatican, etc. is part of the historical record but doesn't have much to do with the question of Pius's "silence." Savidan 09:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry, Smith, but these changes are not supported by the source that is currently cited for that sentence. The bit about the exclusion of Jews from public life may be true but is not mentioned by that source. "continue to" and "still" don't make any sense because the encyclical was written then and can't really criticize anything that's happened since its publication. "after all" is a fluff clause which distracts from the facts. "too" grounded implies that the critics of the encyclical mentioned in the source would have been OK with a certain amount of anti-Judaism (which may be true) but is not supported by any source. The state of "Israel" also did not exist then; if that was not your intent on this last part, then I would suggest that this article is still not the place to explain the intricacies of Jewish messianism. Savidan 04:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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