Talk:Hundertwasser koru flag

Requested move 2 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved to Hundertwasser koru flag, which seemed to get broad agreement. Jenks24 (talk) 05:24, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

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Koru Flag → Hundertwasser flag – This flag is normally referred to as the Hundertwasser flag. The "Koru flag" is now used primarily for this flag, which is one of the four flags currently being considered as a replacement for the New Zealand flag. -- haminoon (talk) 07:51, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I support a change, but the proposed title is ambiguous because Hundertwasser designed other flags as well. I suggest renaming to Hundertwasser koru flag, which is also the term used at the Ministry for Culture and Heritage's NZHistory site - http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/hundertwasser-koru-flag. Nurg (talk) 09:53, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Nurg's alternative suggestion makes sense to me. Schwede66 10:01, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I would agree with Hundertwasser koru flag per Nurg and Schwede66, but this article could probably be deleted, since the existing paragraph within New Zealand flag debate is probably more than sufficient. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 18:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Comment Note that this is a move discussion, and not one for a redirect or deletion. Schwede66 09:35, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Why was this moved?

Koru flag redirects here (to Hundertwasser koru flag). Why is there an article entirely dedicated to one type of koru flag? Were there plans to write a separate article at koru flag? Wouldn't it make sense to move this article back to Koru flag and have a section for Hundertwasser koru flag? (I realise I'm a few weeks away from the previous move.) +mt 20:02, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

If you read the rationale above, you will find the answer to your question. Schwede66 21:28, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

So you plan to write a new article for Koru flag to discuss the others separately? If no, then I suggest to move it back. Ultimately, I think this article should be similar to Silver fern flag, which describes a variety of flags with a silver fern. +mt 22:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

If you are not happy with the result of the move request, the appropriate action is to start another formal move request, and this page tells you how to go about it. Schwede66 23:04, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 29 September 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. As yet there is no material on Wikipedia discussing Koru flags in general. Somebody could write about the other Koru flags proposed in the referendum. An editor pointed out that the page at Koru flag only contains a redirect, and it may be available for creation of a separate article. EdJohnston (talk) 19:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hundertwasser koru flag → Koru flag – This is a proposal to move the article back to it's name from a few weeks ago (sorry, I missed the previous move discussion). This article should be about flags with korus, and not just one Hundertwasser koru flag. Koru flag (the former name) currently redirects here, but it is unlikely it will be a separate article to describe other flags with korus, such as Andrew Fyfe's Koru and Tomas Cottle's Modern Hundertwasser from the 2015–16 New Zealand flag referendums (there were 2,917 flags tagged with koru). The idea is to make this article similar to Silver fern flag, which is one article that describes several flags with silver ferns. +mt 23:50, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose I have absolutely no objection if somebody were to write an article titled Koru flag, and that article would then obviously also make a mention of this particular flag. However, the Hundertwasser koru flag has met WP:GNG (general notability criteria) for a very long time, and as such, I do not support the focus of this article to be broadened, but it should remain a standalone page. Schwede66 01:10, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Comment: Do keep in mind this article is currently a stub (see WP:STUB), and a separate article for Koru flag (which no one yet is volunteering to create) would most likely also remain to be a stub. This article is currently 2.5 kB in size, which is well below the guideline to "justify division" for WP:SPLIT into separate articles. +mt 01:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose. This article has never been about koru flags in general; it is about one koru flag, and so is appropriately named. If the proposer wants an article about koru flags in general, I suggest they write one at Koru flag (overwriting the redirect), and then propose a merge of this article into Koru flag. Nurg (talk) 09:34, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
• Also Oppose. A move proposal should not be a proposal to change the focus of an article, which is what this seems to be. I think Nurg's advice of starting this new article and then considering a merge if necessary, is the way to go. Mattlore (talk) 21:34, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
• Procedural close excessive renomination speed. Try again in 3 months -- 70.51.202.113(talk) 05:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

• That is not how you close a move request. It's also improper to not let this run its course, as the move request is on a different basis from the previous one. Schwede66 10:36, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

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