Talk:Hunlock Creek/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 06:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello! I am interested to review this interesting article. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 06:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Lead

• Though I have not seen many geography articles, I think "creek" deserves a link.

• It's an extremely common term, so I seriously doubt there is any reader who doesn't already know what a creek is.

• Hunlock Creek is designated as a Coldwater Fishery and a Migratory Fishery who is the authority who designated it?

• Addressed below.

• The annual rate of precipitation in the watershed is 35 to 45 inches I think it should be just "the annual precipitation".

• I think the current wording sounds better.

• Link sandstone and shale.

• Done.

Course

• Lehman Township and Hunlock Township should be linked in the main text as well. Same for Susquehanna River

• Done, but I think it's borderline overlinking.

Linking in lead usually does not affect the main text links. At least not in the articles I have read. But you may know better. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• Do left and right banks need links? Ignore my comment if this is a convention in geography articles here.

• They do, in fact, need links.

• turning south-southeast for a similar distance You mean for covering a similar distance?

• No, I meant what I wrote.

• Though not necessary, it would be interesting if you could provide the approximate number of miles covered by the tributary in each or at least some of its turns.

• That strays too far from the topic, i.e. Hunlock Creek. The article Roaring Brook (Hunlock Creek) already has a highly detailed course description.

Fine then. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• Link Roaring Brook.

• Done, though again, it's almost overlinking.

• If banks be linked, then why not valley and confluence?

• Because banks have a non-obvious definition, whereas valley and confluence are obvious.

Alright. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• "Mouth" is linked in Geography and geology section, but it should be linked at first mention, in this section.

• Technically, it is linked at first mention, in the infobox.

• As the village Hunlock Creek is a redlink, you should add "Pennsylvania" to the text itself to denote the location.

• But we know it's in Pennsylvania, because the entire creek is in Pennsylvania.

• Hunlock Creek joins the Susquehanna River 178.21 miles (286.80 km) upriver mouth its mouth Could not understand the latter part of the sentence.

• Typo. Fixed.

• Don't you think the Tributaries subsection repeats the facts about the Roaring Brook? Actually you can not separate the tributaries out into a section without repetition. If you want that for the sake of clarity, you can add a list of them instead of a subsection. My suggestion would be to merge the info in the subsection with the main section "Course", and adding a list of the tributaries at the end of the section.

• No, I do not think it unduly repeats any information, and there is only one named tributary, so a list of tributaries is rather pointless.

Alright. Thanks for letting me know. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• Which of the four unnamed tributaries is the West Branch Hunlock Creek? You do not specify where it meets the Hunlock Creek.

• Who knows? It's unnamed after all, so it won't be mentioned on maps.

Okay, if it is unknown in general and not left out by mistake, it is fine. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Hydrology and climate

• Could you please explain the term "impaired waterbody"?

• Unfortunately, I don't know the exact meaning of the term.

You see it is necessary to explain it in simple terms. This website has some info on this, could you look here?

Okay. Though I found a more relevant citation.

• Convert templates needed in the second, third and fourth paras.

• Done.

• Once again, I don't think it is annual "rate" of precipitation.

• Once again, I think it is.

Geography and geology

• Where is Shickshinny Gap, or the Shickshinny Mountain

• Near Hunlock Creek?

• What are Pocono beds?

• Linked.

• Link sandstone and shale at first mention in the section.

• Done.

• ... at one point forms a 30-foot-high (9-meter-high) cliff along the creek Why include "high" in the conversion? And the units should be in plural. It should read "30 ft (9 m) high".

• Okay.

• A 1921 book described the topography... Well, it is not a book, it is a report. Also add who published this report.

• Okay.

Watershed

• Where is Nanticoke? And Harveys Lake?

• They're USGS quadrangles.

• Hunlock Creek is described as a "good-sized creek" in the 1909 book Who wrote the book? With the writer's name also give his profession or identity.

• I don't think the author's name would mean anything to readers, since he isn't exactly notable. And it's available in the reference for the curious.

Thanks for letting me know. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

History

• Who is Johnathan Hunlock? And Upman and Rogers and Koons?

• Early settlers in the area, presumably.

This should be added to the text. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it matters, and again, it's only a random assumption, or original research.

• Sugar is too common to be linked

• Unlinked.

• Who wrote this 1893 book? Identify the writer.

• Like above, I don't think the author's name would mean anything to readers, since he isn't notable. And it's available in the reference for the curious.

• How did this creek get its name?

• Don't know :-( Probably named after someone named Hunlock, but that would be original research.

Not absolutely necessary, but would have been interesting if you could have added. Never mind. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

• What is "two-span"?

• A bridge with two spans. Linked.

• Link if you can the roads and bridges mentioned in this section.

• Most aren't notable, and individual bridges on random roads almost never have articles.

Thanks for letting me know. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Biology

• Hunlock Creek is designated as a Coldwater Fishery and a Migratory Fishery throughout its entire drainage basin By whom?

• By the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection, but that's not in the source.

I think this should be added to the text. How do you know this? Any good citation? I feel it is an important fact. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Fine. Done.

• They also do so in the tributary Roaring Brook ... I think it is better to write "They also breed in..."

• Changed.

• These slopes or on the northern side of Shickshinny Mountain and contain second-growth northern hardwood forests and some rock outcroppings with small seeps Looks like a grammatical error.

• No, just a typo. Or-->Are.

• Link outcropping and seep.

• Done.

That's all. This is article is a good job. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 06:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks @Jakec: for kindly cooperating with me on my first geography GA review. I like geography articles and wish to help the GA backlog in this topic, and well-meaning editors like you help us new reviewers to learn the ropes. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 08:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Okay, so now it looks like all issues have been resolved. This article should now be a GA. Cheers! Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 01:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Sainsf! I'll get to Nanticoke Creek tomorrow. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 02:20, 3 February 2016 (UTC)