Talk:Hurricane Ian

Split Florida impacts

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This article is almost 170,000 bytes in size, very far past the recommending splitting size. Also, the Florida subsection has five level four subheadings which is a bit much. Therefore, I propose splitting it into Effects of Hurricane Ian in Florida. On top of this all, my medium level computer and decent internet are having heart attacks every time I attempt to load diffs. ✶Mitch199811✶ 00:08, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Page size for splitting is determined using prose count, not wiki markup. The prose count is only 44k and thus shouldn't be split.

Noah, AA^Talk 10:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Not to dispute your claim, but what program did you use to count it? ✶Mitch199811✶ 15:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia:Prosesize I get: "Prose size (text only): 42 kB (6761 words)". Per Wikipedia:Article size, that's an acceptable amount in both word count and kB. That said, I'm not opposed to a split if there's the potential, and the will, for a decent separate article out of it. Penitentes (talk) 15:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• Support Florida's impacts are indeed a very dominant part of what Hurricane Ian did. In fact, what happened in the state takes up almost half the article alone. A split seems necessary here. ChessEric 16:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - Florida constituted the vast majority of the damage. Also, as Hurricane Noah said, the prose isn't very long at this point. The Florida section could still be expanded a lot without being unreasonably long. I think Florida's subsections all make sense, and if there is any one section that should definitely be expanded, it's Florida's aftermath, since there is a whole lot of damage that needed (and still needs) to be fixed/repaired/replaced. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:59, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Before this closes, is there any way to mark that there have been two split suggestions, like how AFDs are marked in the talk page shell? ✶Quxyz✶ 19:37, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

@Quxyz: Use {{Old move}}  Spintendo  23:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

@Spintendo Is it ok that this is a split and not a move? ✶Quxyz✶ 03:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support I want to say Ian has been a unique experience for Florida. As much as Fort Myers and Fort Myers Beach had direct impacts, there was flooding throughout the central portion of the state in the days following. The Southwest Florida direct impact is just one part of the effects it did to the state: the Sanibel Island bridge collapse, the Fort Myers Beach destruction, downtown Fort Myers flooded, flooding of the Myakka and Peace Rivers, the comparison/difference to Charley from 2004, etc possibly could not be sufficiently summarized without leaving a lot of details out. I see the section is 42 kB so how much more text would suffice to not split? – The Grid (talk) 14:53, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose prose is not big enough to warrent an article. Catfurball (talk) 16:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Incorrect information regarding extent of damage on barrier islands

The article states that "Sanibel Island, Fort Myers Beach, and Pine Island bore the brunt of Ian's powerful winds and its accompanying storm surge at landfall, which leveled nearly all standing structures and collapsed the Sanibel Causeway.." While many buildings suffered major damage from storm surge and many were deemed a total loss, the storm did not "level nearly all the standing structures" on Sanibel, Fort Myers Beach, or Pine Island. 67.238.61.10 (talk) 14:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I have changed the wording to thousands in the region which is a cited number in the article. ✶Quxyz✶ 19:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)