Talk:Hurricane Rafael (2012)

Article name

Since Sandy is at the main page because she is the only storm of her name, should Rafael be at the main page for that same reason? Rye998 (talk) 23:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Seems to be the only Rafael worldwide, so I'll file a request at WP:RM just after this post. (FWIW, Rafael is a masculine name.) --Dylan620 ^{(I'm all ears)} 02:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually, after taking a quick reread of the instructions at RM, I'll instead tag the intended target (Hurricane Rafael) for deletion under WP:CSD#G6. --Dylan620 ^{(I'm all ears)} 02:10, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, User:Hurricanehink took care of things before I could tag the original target. --Dylan620 ^{(I'm all ears)} 02:15, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

The difference is that Sandy is almost certain to be retired, while Rafael won't be. CrazyC83 (talk) 17:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

The same exact thing happened to Hurricane Rina (2011, which was not retired), and there was no consensus reached. I guess we will just have to move this article to Hurricane Rafael (2012) in six years (or whenever there is another Rafael – which could be a while)! –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Being retired has little, if any, regards as to whether or not the article should be at the main page in the case of storms like this. Rafael isn't guranteed to be in use again until 2018, and even then, there is no gurantee that year will get to 18 named storms. Not every season gets that far, but the last 3 years were lucky enough to do so. In the unlikely event there is another Hurricane Rafael in the future (like if there is another Hurricane King in the future), then the article can be moved again. Rye998 (talk) 16:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I totally agree – we should leave it how it is and change it if/when there is another Hurricane Rafael. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Rafael/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TheAustinMan (talk · contribs) 21:47, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello TAWX14, I will be reviewing Rafael, under the condition that you do not yell. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 21:47, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Toolbox Checks

• No issues reported. Good job! Though Peer Reviewer indicates you have only two images. Maybe you should try adding more. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Lead

• You should link tropical wave. Is it an oceanic wave? Link.

 Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "...it skipped tropical depression status..." I'm fine with skipped, but it sort of sounds funny. If there's any alternative, then you can change it.

I think it's fine as is. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "...a subsequent decrease..." Decrease of what. And you should probably use 'a subsequent weakening...'

I already state what in the first part of the sentence. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "...to develop in earnest..." Not sure if that is a correct usage, is it?

Why wouldn't it be? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Link East Coast of the United States.

 Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Link sea surface temperature.

 Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "As much as a foot of rain fell..." Needs metric conversion.

Does it? I did not use an exact total, so I don't think so. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Link Bermuda.

 Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Link Nova Scotia.

 Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "...but overall, damage to both locations was minimal." Which two? I see four locations in the second paragraph. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Was speaking mainly about Newfoundland... Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Meteorological history

• "National Hurricane Center (NHC)" I would exclude the abbreviation from the link

No. It's always a part of. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "As Rafael moved northward, it continued to intensify rapidly in spite of weak wind shear." Is the occurrence weak wind shear prohibitive to the intensification of tropical cyclones? A publication indicates low wind shear is necessary for rapid intensification anyways.

Should've been moderate. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "a Category 1..." Category 1 what. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Preparations and impact

Caribbean islands

• Link watch and warning terms

K. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "By the morning hours of October 9, the warnings were discontinued for Saint Lucia and Martinique..." October 9 is before Rafael developed into a tropical storm. Did you mean that?

No. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Link Federal Emergency Management Agency, and since you've been adding abbreviations to organizations, add FEMA.

K. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• Link Météo-France.

K. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "...most businesses closed..." → "...most businesses were closed...*

Yes. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

• "A few people attempted to drive through flooded roads and required rescue; however, there were no reports of injuries or fatalities." I thought the one fatality associated with Rafael was the result of an attempted drive-thru of a flooded road. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Err...right. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Bermuda

• "the main two airports on Bermuda—WestJet and United Airlines—cancelled hundreds of flights on October 16." Are those airports or airlines? TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Airlines. Fixed. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Newfoundland

• Canadian Dollars are officially abbreviated as C$, not CA$. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Since these were the only problems I identified, I will pass this GAN once you have fixed the aforementioned qualms. TheAustinMan^{(Talk·Works)} 22:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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