Talk:Hydrus/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sasata (talk · contribs) 21:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

I usually review these at FAC anyways, so might as well get my nitpicks out of the way. Comments in a couple of days. Sasata (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Comments

• link celestial atlas

god-damn, I'll remember that one of these days....linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "it should not be confused" - sounds how-to-y

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "constellation which represents" which->that

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• northern hemisphere should be capitalized

capped Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "the 2.8 magnitude Beta Hydri" hyphenation for adjectival usage; magnitude should be linked in the lead

hyphenated Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• capitalize Sun (check throughout)

capped Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• catalog->catalogue

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• link planisphere, Eridanus

linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "Lacaille had shortened its tail to make space for this last constellation." whose tail? In what way was he making space? So that it would fit on the star chart?

Hydrus' tail. He reduced the size of it to make a new constellation in the night sky. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "Keyzer and de Houtman assigned 15 stars to the constellation in their Malay and Madagascan vocabulary" I don't understand the significance of the Malay and Malagasy vocabs

I don't either - that is where the constellation material was placed. Weird. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "with a star that what would be" grammar fixing needed

twaeked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "Gamma the breast" do snakes have breasts?

chest, then. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "Of these, he labelled two stars close together Eta, Pi and Tau and omitted Omicron and Xi."" confusing … Pi and Tau were the two stars labelled as close to Eta?

I tried this essentially he called three pairs of stars - Eta1 and Eta2, Pi1 and Pi2, and Tau1 and Tau2...clearer? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:48, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• light year is hyphenated about half the time, and not linked until late in the article

hyphenated and linked at first instance Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• link luminosity

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "with the supply at its core becoming exhausted." supply of what

hydrogen - added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• neighborhood -> neighbourhood?

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "one of the oldest stars in the solar neighborhood." whose neighbourhood?

just means nearby our sun. I could write "near the sun" but might be a bit repetitive. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "It is also closest bright star to the south celestial pole." how is a bright star defined? The paragraph starts out by saying that "Hydrus does not contain any particularly bright stars."

I have removed the second sentence as it is subjective...actually they both are. "bright" in this case I suspect means anything of magnitude 3 and brighter, which is a very small minority of visible stars. The south celestial pole region is otherwise populated by very faint stars... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "magnitude 2.9, 71 light-years" the numbers so closely aligned could be confusion, maybe insert "located" after the comma

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• link for south celestial pole?

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• link periodicity, binary system, super eruption, polarized optical and infrared emission, X-ray emission, period

done - though supereruption is for volcanoes... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "3° northeast of Gamma" avoid starting a sentence with a number
• "Pi Hydri, composed of Pi1 Hydri and Pi2 Hydri, is divisible in binoculars." does this mean that they can be viewed independently in binocs?

yes Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "that was suspected of being variable" it is no longer suspected of being so?

correct - would a "once" slipped in help clarify that here? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• AU needs to be spelled out/linked on first use

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• link apparent magnitude earlier

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• capitalize Earth

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• link deep sky object, spiral galaxy, Large Magellanic Cloud, emission nebula

done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• When was IC 1717 discovered?

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• "Small Magellanic Cloud (SMC)" no need to define acronyms not used later

removed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• odd that star doesn't get linked until the second last sentence!

delinked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• no mythology?

none - this is a recently defined fairly faint south polar constellation..... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• water snake links (also in infobox) lead to dabs

no real point linking that anywhere as it is unclear which snake it'd be anyway, hence delinked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

• good to add that its area is 0.589% of the night sky per Bagnall 2012?

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• why not mention that Dreyer's now non-existent star was "almost certainly a faint comet"?

damn, overlooked that -added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• "However, the coordinate Dreyer observed is no longer there" Is this the correct way to say this? The coordinate is still there, but the once-observed object no longer is…

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• "It also contains a spiral galaxy" Subject of "it" unclear due to content of previous sentence.

de-pronouned Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:34, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• "and a small irregular galaxy NGC 1473." source?

I took it out as there is almost nothing written on it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:08, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• according to this source on crisis survival, one can use the position of B hydrus as an accurate navigational reference to find geographic south

that page is not visible to my location, but sounds like a good thing to add. I can either try by proxy or hope that some US-based person adds it... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I sent you a screen capture of the Google Books page. Sasata (talk) 15:58, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

added now, thanks Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:19, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

• I don't know if there's room or desire for a pop culture mention, but its appearance in Herman Melville's Moby Dick might be worth it: "And beneath the effulgent Antarctic skies I have boarded the Argo-Navis, and joined the chase against the starry Cetus far beyond the utmost stretch of Hydrus and the Flying Fish." (p. 92), a passage that is discussed on page 5 of this source

I have added it as it adds some colour and engagingness to the characteristics section. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:51, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• the Rudston Monolith in North Yorkshire depicts Hydrus, says this source

Given Hydrus' far southern location and invisibility to most of the Northern Hemisphere, I can't believe this...and it appears to be the only source for the claim (i.e. not cited in other texts) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:44, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• it might be good to mention that the Large Magellanic Cloud lies mostly in the neighbouring Dorado per here (Dorado currently mentioned in info box but not in article)

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• final nitpicks: the number of authors appearing before et al. should be standardized; compare the different formats in Brandão (2011), Setiawan (2005) and Mayor (2011)
• author format for Malin 1995 is different

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:19, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

I think my work is done here. Both images are appropriately licensed, and all of the other GA criteria are met. Promoting now... Sasata (talk) 15:58, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

thx :) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)