Talk:Hypersalivation
Latest comment: 9 years ago by Matthew Ferguson 57 in topic Water brash a colloquialism for hypersalivation?
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Water brash a colloquialism for hypersalivation?
editI looked up a few definitions of 'water brash', and I feel it is not a colloquial ism for hypersalivation, which is specifically increased output from the salivary glands. Water brash sounds more akin to acid reflux .Matthew Ferguson 57 (talk) 09:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- You are right, Matthew. Water brash is where a small amount of stomach acid regurgitates up to the back of the throat. Axl ¤ [Talk] 11:42, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- My impression agrees precisely with Axl; imagine my surprise as I looked for reliable sources when I came across this: PMID 3678754. This suggests that, at least 25 years ago, it was the salivary response to acid reflux that was called water brash. I do think that current sources will bear out the definition Axl describes - and I'm looking - but historically it sounds like it was more complicated. -- Scray (talk) 14:43, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- As I look further (e.g. PMID 15681902) the meaning does seem to be sialorrhea (increased salivation) specifically in the context of acid reflux. -- Scray (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- From Sleisenger and Fordtran's Gastrointestinal and Liver Disease edited by Mark Feldman (9th edition, 2010, Saunders, ISBN 978-1-4160-6189-2), Chapter 43 "Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease" by Mark Feldman, Lawrence S. Friedman, and Lawrence J. Brandt, pages 705-726: "
Finally, the esophagosalivary reflex is impaired in patients with reflux esophagitis and individuals with strictures.77 This is a vasovagal reflex demonstrated by perfusing acid into the esophagus, which stimulates salivation. This reflex explains the symptoms of water brash (copious salivation) observed in some reflux patients.
" and ref 77 is PMID 6873607. So, in answer to your question: "water brash" not a colloquialism but is an accepted medical term for hypersalivation stimulated by acid reflux through a vasovagal reflex loop. Hope this helps. -- Scray (talk) 15:20, 8 November 2014 (UTC)- Ah, thank you for correcting me and pointing that out, Scray. Axl ¤ [Talk] 22:45, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- From Sleisenger and Fordtran's Gastrointestinal and Liver Disease edited by Mark Feldman (9th edition, 2010, Saunders, ISBN 978-1-4160-6189-2), Chapter 43 "Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease" by Mark Feldman, Lawrence S. Friedman, and Lawrence J. Brandt, pages 705-726: "
- As I look further (e.g. PMID 15681902) the meaning does seem to be sialorrhea (increased salivation) specifically in the context of acid reflux. -- Scray (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- My impression agrees precisely with Axl; imagine my surprise as I looked for reliable sources when I came across this: PMID 3678754. This suggests that, at least 25 years ago, it was the salivary response to acid reflux that was called water brash. I do think that current sources will bear out the definition Axl describes - and I'm looking - but historically it sounds like it was more complicated. -- Scray (talk) 14:43, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
I have reverted the recent edit [1] in question. Actually, the article already seems to have a source defining water brash. Matthew Ferguson 57 (talk) 23:16, 17 November 2014 (UTC)