Talk:I'm entitled to my opinion/Archives/2019
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Biogeographist in topic Fallacy?
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Fallacy?
I am really confused, is this a troll article or something? This is the first time I've ever heard of this phrase being proclaimed as a "logical fallacy". Not only does it not make sense at all to assume that it's a logical fallacy just because someone says "I have a right to my opinion" (merely because the subject of the debate might be scientifically unexplored and there might not be any objective truths about it yet), but also, in a lot of ways this whole article contradicts another logical fallacy called "appeal from authority". I strongly suggest edit on this one. At least, this is my opinion, no pun intended :) --VEGETA_DTX (talk) 07:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- @VEGETA DTX: As the lead sentence says, what makes this a fallacy is not the statement itself but one's use of the statement in an argument to immunize one's position from criticism and/or from the need for rational justification. I've italicized the most relevant part in the following copy of the lead sentence: "I'm entitled to my opinion or I have a right to my opinion is a logical fallacy in which a person discredits any opposition by claiming that they are entitled to their opinion." For a discussion of what rational justification means, see the article cited in the "Further reading" section: Godden, David (2014). "Teaching rational entitlement and responsibility: a Socratic exercise". Informal Logic. 34 (1): 124–151. doi:10.22329/il.v34i1.3882.
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(help) Biogeographist (talk) 11:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)- Even in this case it might be justified. It can be used to avoid the whole discussion, which often makes more sense than wasting your time with useless discussions. Discussions can be useless e.g. because the topic is not relevant enough or because it is unlikely to agree with the opposition. From what I understand it's basically equivalent to "This is my opinion and I don't want to discuss it". --MrBurns (talk) 22:14, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @MrBurns: It is unclear which case you were referring to when you wrote "Even in this case..." A person's claim that they are entitled to their opinion is fallacious when it is used as (i.e., in place of) a rational argument. That fallacy is the subject of this article. There is a separate article, Agree to disagree, about the different subject of stopping a dialogue when the two parties are unlikely to agree and wish to avoid, e.g., wasting time by prolonging their interaction. Biogeographist (talk) 13:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Even in this case it might be justified. It can be used to avoid the whole discussion, which often makes more sense than wasting your time with useless discussions. Discussions can be useless e.g. because the topic is not relevant enough or because it is unlikely to agree with the opposition. From what I understand it's basically equivalent to "This is my opinion and I don't want to discuss it". --MrBurns (talk) 22:14, 11 November 2019 (UTC)