Talk:I, Claudius (TV series)

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Adam Sampson in topic "Cruelty to actors" review quote

Moving page

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The page has been moved from I, Claudius (tv series) to I, Claudius (TV series) to fix capitalisation problems. Thank you. --Jrothwell (talk) 17:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

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Why is "div" linked in the "In popular culture" section? It links to a disambig page, so it's not at all clear which meaning is meant. Is this a British expression? — Loadmaster 15:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

13, or 12 Episodes??

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Hi, I have the whole collection and there's only twelve episodes. (Family Affair is actually Waiting in the Wings). Puzzled by the 13-episode listing here, I went to BBC at this site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/features/iclaudius.shtml and behold! Only 12 episodes. Just a heads up. 124.86.79.47 (talk) 11:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

There are, and always have been, 13 episodes. The original BBC airing in 1976 had episodes 1 and 2 being shown together on the same evening. This showing had seperate opening and closing credits for both episodes. Later airings varied as to whether they were shown over 12 or 13 weeks. They also varied whether they combined the first two episodes or spliced later ones together. Some of these also eliminated the opening and closing credits between the two that were put together, thus, creating the illusion that there are 12 parts. This BBC four airing obviously did the same thing but as it only lists the last four airings there is no way to know which two earlier episodes were put together. The easiest way to tell which two were put together is to time your episodes. The 13 were 50-53 minutes long. If you have an episode that is 100 minutes long then you have two spliced together. All VHS and DVD boxed sets have always been in the 13 episode format. Please look at the external links provided. Four of them list a 13 episode series and the fifth one lists one episode at 100 minutes and 12 at 50 minutes which is explained above. MarnetteD | Talk 15:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Reply


On IMDB they do not show 13 episodes, they show 12, "Family Affairs" does not exist for their purposes as they say they go by the original airing. I inquired about this and they were firm. I do not possess the British DVDs, but in the new, 2008 remastered DVDs available in the US http://www.amazon.com/Claudius-Epic-That-Never-Was/dp/B001FRNB9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1252746644&sr=1-1, there are 12 episodes, and in viewing #1, A Touch of Murder, there is no "2" indicated. At 46:50 it cuts to an aged Claudius in a hallway (a scene not on my old discs that breaks it down into two episodes) where he very briefly says "nine years passed...etc" and then it cuts right to the scene where Tiberius and Drusus are in the gym with the medicine ball. It does not flash "2" or "Family Affairs" on the screen. At the end, the credits are different--longer, a combined version of what we Americans have always thought of as #1 and #2. It is not a cut and paste job, for example on my old discs the ladies giving Julia and Antonia a rub-down are listed as "Masseuses," but appear under "Slaves" on the newer discs. All of this leads me to believe that the original airing did not distinguish an episode called "Family Affairs" or flashed "2" on the screen. Because then they would have flashed "3" "For Waiting In The Wings" and they did not, at least on these new remastered DVDs. Waiting In The Wings is #2.

So are you quite sure "The episodes were not shown in one go. They were shown as seperate entities with a break in between the two. The 1 and the 2 were used at the start of the appropriate episode question"? and that "This showing had seperate opening and closing credits for both episodes." The new remastered edition would seem to suggest otherwise, but I am not prepared to say that the new remastered edition is EXACTLY how it originally aired, though it certainly seems closer to the original than the first-issue American DVDs. For example, on the remastered discs, it has an extended scene from the British cut where Cassius Chaerea describes how to ambush Caligula after saying "Here's the tricky part."--Nyctc7 (talk) 17:22, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Episodes

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I've reformatted the episode list/summary with the {{episodelist}} template (and temporarily put them on /Episode list. Since there are only 13 episodes, I'm not sure if we should put them on, say, List of I, Claudius episodes or leave them here on this page. Any thoughts?

(The original air dates I used are from http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/series/26839.) Mr. Absurd (talk) 20:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Moved to List of I, Claudius episodes. Mr. Absurd (talk) 03:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Claudius.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Opening credits

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What type of snake is that in the opening credits? Is it vipera berus? Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it is an adder--Nyctc7 (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cast table needs to be redone

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The table created for the cast is very difficult to visually engage in isn't it? Shouldn't it be redone to facilitate human usage? Stevenmitchell (talk) 11:22, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

"human usage", good one, my experience, too. At least, if it is a list "in order of appearance" it should say so. Although it wouldn't actually help human usage. For that the vast list probably should have to be devided in main characters, that recur in most eps, then down to guest appearances. Or family trees? Timeline? An A-Z not by cast, but by the figures (after a head with Claudius and maybe few more) MenkinAlRire 23:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Herod Agrippa vs Marcus Agrippa

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Marcus Agrippa was the contemporary and companion of Augustus, not Herod Agrippa. I think they've been confused on this page.

"Cruelty to actors" review quote

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I've removed a mention of the Guardian's review saying "There should be a Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Actors", because the Guardian didn't say that. While it can be found in several sources, they all seem to stem from an inaccurate recollection by director Howard Wise (long before the Guardian's archive was available online) - see this Dirty Feed article. Adam Sampson (talk) 15:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply