Talk:ICL 2900 Series

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Rwendland in topic P Series & S Series

Merge proposal

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I propose that ICL 2980 be merged into this article, because there is not enough notable content to warrant its own article. --ClickRick (talk) 01:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

That makes sense. --Malleus Fatuorum 02:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
Done. --ClickRick (talk) 22:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Pink Mouse Productions

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I'm not sure that the pink mouse productions page is really worthy of citing here. The main value it adds is some photographs. Apart from that it's very anecdotal and has a transient feel to it: there's no author or date, and one of the pictures is captioned as "me" without saying who "me" is. It's not a source that anyone could regard as more reliable than the Wikipedia article itself.

Mhkay (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

OK, I've moved it from References to External links, and made clear that it's anecdotal, but I still think it has value for the interested reader. The authors can be deduced from notes elsewhere on the site.
--ClickRick (talk) 22:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)Reply
I'm the owner of pink-mouse-productions.com, but I am in the process of shutting it down. On May 20th I decided to redirect the link to my home server (http://jadzia.homelinux.net:8888/icl/2900.htm) until I figure out a better solution, however my edit was quickly reverted. I realise I was a bit naive making the change from an anonymous IP address, with no comment, and to a suspicious-looking URL. I decided to create a proper account and try again. If I make the change again and give a good explanation of the edit, is there a chance we can make it stick? Unfortunately I don't currently have access to a server with a 'professional' looking name.
John Croudy (talk) 08:46, 5 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
Probably the old link still worked at the time and that with the lack of comment was the reason. Just say something like fixing broken link. There aren't many externals of higher reliability so I believe it is fine under WP:ELMAYBE "Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources." It would not be okay for a citation within the article. Dmcq (talk) 14:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

P Series & S Series

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Anybody feel the urge to distinguish between the P series (2980, 2970,2976) and the somewhat different S Series (2950, 2956, 2960, 2966, etc.)? The latter had a quite distinct architecture, and replaced Parallel communication interfaces with serial (Macrolan) interconnections. There is no mention of Dual processors, which were accommodated in both the Hardware architecture, and the ICL VME operating system. Alldav (talk) 17:51, 6 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Sounds a good idea - especially if you can do it in a way that's backed by accessible citations, rather than relying on personal memories. Mhkay (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
This is more than a good idea. The description under implementation is for P series machine architecture only. The S series was quite different with the SACs and SMACs replaced by SDUs and dedicated network processors. The Macrolan described here was actually from the Series 39 architecture (which also introduced an inter processor connection called a MOFI and Ethernet). It was possible to retrofit the Macrolan to S series machines. The large Series 39 processor family were code named Estriel (from S3L) with the smaller ones code named DM1. waswasere (talk) 09:07, 30 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
Done, very roughly. Not sure I have 2960 right in P series, would welcome any corrections from an expert. I don't know how the 2960 fits in with the 2966, a prototype/initial version? I gather the 2966 was the basis of the 2958 to 2988 range, so the 2960 seems an outlier of the main S series. (see table from ICL tech journal in article) Rwendland (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

IPA

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Don't see any mention of Information Processing Architecture (IPA) or CO-3 here. There should be some reference to IPA here, and possibly a separate wiki article for IPA. IPA is only mentioned in passing in the IBM SNA, Boldon James and IPA dis-ambiguation wiki articles. See https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0141933182903672 for further info. 82.21.133.132 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:24, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

FWIW, IPA is not specific to ICL 2900 series. One of the problems with doing an article on IPA is that popular usage of the term in the user community was rather different from the formal ICL specifications. Mhkay (talk) 21:50, 6 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

https://www.fujitsu.com/uk/Images/ICL-Technical-Journal-v03i03.pdf Ref. this PDF URL 82.21.55.166 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply