Talk:IEC 61400
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Merge with List of IEC standards?
editIn short: The 61400 standards form a significant, integral and widespread part of wind power production as shown by the references, and the way they are used is notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. If other standards are deemed notable, they can be included and we can change the article name.
This article was proposed to be merged with List of IEC standards on 12 March 2011. At that point, the article was a list roughly in accordance with Wikipedia:Lists_(stand-alone_lists)#Common_selection_criteria : Short, complete lists of every item that is verifiably a member of the group , but could obviously be improved.
1: Issue of notability was adressed with expansion also on 12 March 2011, and article conforms with Notability guidelines - so merging is not relevant. After notability expansion, such a merge does not seem to correspond with usual merge guidelines of Duplicate, Overlap, missing Text or missing Context. Since the already long List of IEC standards prevents detailed description and sublevels, merging this 61400 article into that is essentially a deletion of (significant) content as shown by recent edits. If disagreement exists, please specify which parts of the content that do not conform with guidelines and why.
2: Any major change from that expanded status, whether removal of merge tag or removal of content, should not be done by participants before proper discussion and consensus, which is why I left that merge tag in place - this should not be regarded as agreeing to merge.
My view so far: don't merge, and keep content. TGCP (talk) 00:38, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose merge. I wanted to create this article some time back, but was unable to do so due to lack of sources/text/info. I think the current article is notable enough to stand alone... Rehman 08:02, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- Comment by nominator. I'm still not convinced this article meets WP:GNG. Does it get coverage outside of the industry? The article also needs lots of expansion. Who, What, When, Where, Why? Who instigated the standards development process (IEC is a secrtariat and doesn't have anyone actually writing standards...someone writes them for IEC and they publish them.) What does the standard say, without copyvio of its text, and without tritely repeating its table of contents? "Where" probably not very significant in this case. Why? What was the percieved problem in the turbine industry that the standard was supposed to address? Why did it take IEC decades to get round to standardizing it? Few technical standards are notable outside their own baliwick. WP has indefinite space available, but only finite human resources to maintain articles - let's not clutter the encyclopedia with things that will never see a human edit. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:27, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Harmonization
editThe present text about small wind turbines is a bit misleading in my opinion. The previous creation of some "national standards", which are often just published by a national trade associations, have contributed to a mess for the small wind turbine industry. Some manufacturers spend much money to test and certify to those standards, and still the results might not be fully useful in many other countries. That is the opposite of harmonization. Real harmonization would be to declare these national standards 'end of life' and instead use IEC 61400-2 as far as possible. The new Ed. 3 of this standard should be very helpful for that purpose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.229.128.9 (talk) 14:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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