Talk:IHH Healthcare

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Hi Editor,

Isaac here from WATATAWA Consulting and we support several clients such as IHH Healthcare with their external engagements.

I would like to make some edits to IHH Healthcare’s Wikipedia page with the latest publicly available information. Would you be able to advise how we can move forward with this please? I’ve read Wikipedia:Edit Requests and it mentioned to indicate my request on the talk page prior to using the Edit Request Template or the Edit Request Wizard.

I understand that there were some issues with the previous attempt to make modifications. I have rectified it and will be the only person making any edits for the IHH Healthcare page moving forward via this new account.

Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon.

Best Regards,

Isaac Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 09:18, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Present us what would you like to change and back up your claims with reliable sources (per WP:BURDEN). A09 (talk) 12:11, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi A09,

As a start:

1) IHH's latest updated revenue for Q1 2023 is RM 5.1 billion as seen in their latest results press release here and on their website here.

2)For the second and third paragraph of the body, could we amend it to:

Its portfolio of healthcare brands includes Pantai, Gleneagles and Prince Court in IHH Malaysia; Mount Elizabeth, Gleneagles, and Parkway in IHH Singapore; Gleneagles and ParkwayHealth in IHH Greater China; Fortis and Gleneagles Global in IHH India; and Acibadem in Turkiye and Europe.

IHH's subsidiaries include Pantai Holdings, Parkway Holdings, ParkwayLife REIT and Fortis. It is also the majority shareholder of Acıbadem Healthcare Group, the largest Turkish private healthcare company.

Reasons for amending point 2:

- Continental Hospitals was divested in 2021 as seen here.

- The International Medical University was also divested in 2022 as seen here.

- IHH Healthcare's brands and subsidiaries can be found here.

Our amends are backed by publicly available resources as linked. Do let us know if these are good to go, please – we will share a couple more requested edits for your advise after.

Best regards,

Isaac Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 03:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Editor,

Hope you are well.

May I check if this is the correct way to present the changes that I would like to make?

Do let me know if any amends need to be made in terms of the formatting and I'll be happy to make them soonest.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best Regards,

Isaac Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 03:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey there and sorry for a late reply, but I've been busy in last days. Usual way of making an edit request is via {{edit COI}} (as you have conflict of interest this one is the most appropriate). I'll take a look into the request later. Thanks in advance, A09 (talk) 09:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

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Revenue RM 4.3 billion (Q2 2021)

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Revenue RM 5.1 billion (Q1 2023)

• Reason for the change: Updating to the latest figures
• References supporting change: https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/medianews.htm?filepath=IHH/IHH-Q1_2023_Results_Press_Release-31052023.pdf and https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/investors/financial-information/financial-highlights

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In recent years, IHH has expanded significantly in India.

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Its portfolio of healthcare brands includes Pantai, Gleneagles and Prince Court in IHH Malaysia; Mount Elizabeth, Gleneagles, and Parkway in IHH Singapore; Gleneagles and ParkwayHealth in IHH Greater China; Fortis, Global and Continental in IHH India; and Acibadem in Turkey.

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Its portfolio of healthcare brands includes Pantai, Gleneagles and Prince Court in IHH Malaysia; Mount Elizabeth, Gleneagles, and Parkway in IHH Singapore; Gleneagles and ParkwayHealth in IHH Greater China; Fortis and Gleneagles Global in IHH India; and Acibadem in Turkiye and Europe.

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IHH's subsidiaries include Pantai Holdings, Parkway Holdings, ParkwayLife REIT and Fortis. HH also owns the International Medical University in Kuala Lumpur and is the majority shareholder of Acıbadem Healthcare Group, the largest Turkish private healthcare company. IHH owns 52.3%[3] of the Hyderabad-based private healthcare provider Continental Hospitals Limited in India.

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IHH's subsidiaries include Pantai Holdings, Parkway Holdings, ParkwayLife REIT and Fortis. It is also the majority shareholder of Acıbadem Healthcare Group, the largest Turkish private healthcare company.

• Reason for the change: Updating to the publicly available information
• References supporting change:

- Continental Hospitals was divested in 2021 as seen here.

- The International Medical University was also divested in 2022 as seen here.

- IHH Healthcare's brands and subsidiaries can be found here.

Dear A09, let me know if this is okay. Followed the template as much as possible. Many thanks! Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 22:42, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

 Partly done The infobox figure has been updated, but because no reference was provided, a citation needed inline template was applied. The information concerning the medical university was deleted as requested. The other information asked to be added was not implemented because it was not clear which references provided applied to which statements proposed. Regards,  Spintendo  16:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks for making the edits. I've tried to work the references into the copy as below - let me know if this is sufficient or if there is another way that I should move forward with this.

{{edit COI}}

Specific text to be added or removed:

Its portfolio of healthcare brands includes Pantai, Gleneagles and Prince Court in IHH Malaysia; Mount Elizabeth, Gleneagles, and Parkway in IHH Singapore; Gleneagles and ParkwayHealth in IHH Greater China; Fortis and Gleneagles Global in IHH India; and Acibadem in Turkiye and Europe.

IHH's subsidiaries include Pantai Holdings, Parkway Holdings, ParkwayLife REIT and Fortis. It is also the majority shareholder of Acıbadem Healthcare Group, the largest Turkish private healthcare company. (https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/about-us/our-global-network)

Reason for the change: Adding information about IHH's subsidiaries add the relevant citation.

References supporting change:

1) https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/about-us/our-global-network

{{edit COI}}

Specific text to be added or removed: (from the Info Box) RM 5.1 billion

Reason for the change: adding citations

References supporting change:

1) https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/investors/financial-information/financial-highlights Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 06:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Editor,

Hope you are well. Understand that you might be busy or tied up with other commitments.

Just wanted to follow up with the above. Would you be able to advise if the above edits can be made?

Do let me know. Looking forward to hearing from you!

Cheers, Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 23:11, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Editor,

Following up on this - We've had some new developments and was wondering if we could add on to the list of edits proposed. IHH Healthcare's Group CEO position has been filled by Dr Prem Kumar Nair, the former IHH Healthcare Singapore CEO. His position will take effect from 1st October 2023 as per the press release linked below.

• Reason for the change: Updating latest publicly available information.
• References supporting change: https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/medianews.htm?filepath=IHH/IHH_Announces_Leadership_Changes_Media_Release_290823_FINAL.pdf

Many thanks and hope to hear from you soon!

Best regards,

Isaac Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 01:24, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

COI editing

@Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting, please use {{Edit COI}} to request changes instead of updating the article directly yourself. Thanks. JASWE (talk) 10:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi JASWE, I have been trying to use the Edit COI to request changes instead of updating the article directly in the other talk page section. Appreciate if you could take a look at the below and let me know if the edits are good to go. Otherwise, if you could let me know what is missing or what is required that will be much appreciated too. Many thanks.

- Isaac

Specific text to be added or removed: To add text as below between 1st and 2nd paragraphs.

In recent years, IHH has expanded significantly in India.

Its portfolio of healthcare brands includes Pantai, Gleneagles and Prince Court in IHH Malaysia; Mount Elizabeth, Gleneagles, and Parkway in IHH Singapore; Gleneagles and ParkwayHealth in IHH Greater China; Fortis and Gleneagles Global in IHH India; and Acibadem in Turkiye and Europe.

IHH's subsidiaries include Pantai Holdings, Parkway Holdings, ParkwayLife REIT and Fortis. It is also the majority shareholder of Acıbadem Healthcare Group, the largest Turkish private healthcare company.

Reason for the change: Adding in information based on the publicly available website.

References supporting change: https://www.ihhhealthcare.com/about-us/our-global-network > IHH's networks of hospitals and subsidiaries can be found here - it can be use to cite the entire section to be added above. Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 03:11, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

@Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting I am leaving the request to other uninvolved editors and since the backlog is small, it should be attended to quickly. Also, do remove the tags so the template will be in use. [[User:Justanothersgwikieditor|JASWE]] ([[User talk:Justanothersgwikieditor|talk]]) 03:39, 27 September 2023 (UTC) :::{{not done for now}} It would be helpful if the WikiLinks for the subsidiary companies and portfolio brands were noted with your request. If these companies and brands are independently notable, they would have their own Wikipedia pages, which augers well for their inclusion in the article. Also, the reference provided is from the subject company itself. Wikipedia prefers references from reliable secondary sources. This preference for secondary sources could be sidestepped if the companies were independently notable. Please note which companies are independently notable in the space just after this reply message. When ready to proceed with your request, please alter the request template's answer parameter to read from {{para|ans|yes}} to {{para|ans|no}}. Regards, [[User:Spintendo|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:3px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>Spintendo</b> </span>]] 05:18, 27 September 2023 (UTC) ::::Hi Spintendo, ::::Thanks for getting back to us. Have noted on citing from Wiki links and I have found the following below. do let me know if this is what you meant. Many thanks! ::::[[Parkway Pantai]], [[Gleneagles Hospital]], https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q104247474, [[Mount Elizabeth Hospital]], [[Fortis Healthcare]], [[Acıbadem Healthcare Group]], [[User:Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting|Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting]] ([[User talk:Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting|talk]]) 07:40, 1 October 2023 (UTC) :::::[[User:Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting|@Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting]] Thank you for providing the WikiLinks to some of the companies mentioned in your proposal. As not all of the companies mentioned in your proposal have Wikilinks, the final step in your request would be to include those Wikilinks for the companies which have them in a new edit request proposal, taking care to delete the mentioning of those companies which are not Wikilinked. A reference should accompany your request, but as the remaining companies mentioned will now all be independently notable, that reference may originate from any primary source you like, including company press releases or from the company itself (such as a link to the company's website where the announcement has been made{{efn|It appears as if you've already provided that reference, thank you for that.}}). Please post that new edit request below this reply post at your earliest convenience,{{efn|Please also change the request template's answer parameter to read from {{para|ans|yes}} to {{para|ans|no}}.}} so that the reviewer may add the text to the article. Regards, [[User:Spintendo|<span style="font-size:85%;color:#f00;border:3px solid red;border-radius:15px;"> <b>Spintendo</b> </span>]] 17:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC) ::::::Hi editor - as instructed above, a new edit COI request has been made as below with third party links to supplement the above Wikilinks. Many thanks. ::::::+++ ::::::<nowiki>{{edit COI}}

Specific text to be added or removed:

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In recent years, IHH has expanded significantly in India.

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Its portfolio of healthcare brands includes Pantai, Gleneagles and Prince Court in IHH Malaysia; Mount Elizabeth, Gleneagles, and Parkway in IHH Singapore; Gleneagles in Greater China; Fortis and Gleneagles Global in IHH India; and Acibadem in Turkiye and Europe.

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IHH's subsidiaries include ParkwayLife REIT and Fortis. It is also the majority shareholder of Acıbadem Healthcare Group, the largest Turkish private healthcare company.

Reason for the change: Updating to the publicly available information

References supporting change:

- IHH Healthcare's brands and subsidiaries can be found here.

- Third party sources referencing IHH Healthcare and ParkwayLife REITS relationship: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/property/parkway-life-reit-ihh-healthcare-extend-lease-agreements-20-years-s150m-capex-injection

- Third party sources referencing IHH Healthcare and Prince Court Medical Centre's relationship: https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/asia/ihh-healthcare-acquires-malaysia-s-prince-court-medical-center-rm102b

Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 23:20, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Notes

Banner on top of IHH's page

Dear all,

With regards to the banner on top of IHH's Wiki page i.e.

"This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. (September 2021)"

May we look into removal of this? I have disclosed that edits were made by a party (myself) of affiliation to IHH. I've also done my due diligence to ensure that content on the page is neutral, has no advertisement and is factual.

Many thanks and looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,

Isaac Isaac at WATATAWA Consulting (talk) 14:45, 12 November 2024 (UTC)