Talk:iParty with Victorious

References

This article has no references.Other dictionaries are better (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

iTunes - Leave it all to shine

This article only tells when the song went online to YouTube (at least in the lead section), I think that the time it was posted to iTunes should be added. I am not sure when it was posted so if you know, please revise. Here is a link for iTunes --Michaelzeng7 (talk) 13:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Idk what to name this

Should this be noted in Sam and Cat as a second crossover between Icarly and Victorious? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.148.253 (talk) 20:36, 31 July 2016

Movie vs. Episode

Described as a movie in the intro but that was a reclassification of something that was designed and originally broadcast as a television episode. It is listed in the list of episodes of iCarly (season 4) as an episode. The issue is should this article reflect the original way the episode was advertised and broadcast or the later reclassification as a Television Movie. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:27, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Given that it is clearly a sequential group of episodes from an episodic television series, forming part of that series' TV season, I'd suggest it's definitely not a "movie". It was made, produced and shown as part of a series, it's not a stand-alone spin-off, produced before or after the series itself, so it's so clearly a part of the series that it's hard to see how the "movie" classification can stick. It's just a few episodes that share a single continuing story and occur one after the other. Bonusballs (talk) 16:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

It's a "TV movie" – it's 90 minutes long. See also supporting sourcing at List of films broadcast by Nickelodeon. It should probably be designated as a "special" in the episodes list. Supporting evidence that it should be "counted" differently is the inclusion of Victoria Justice in the front credits. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:49, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia itself is not a source, and of the two references in the List of Films article, one doesn't mention whether it's a movie or not, the second only says "TV Movie" in a photo caption. If it was made notably before or after the series, or had a standalone premise outside of the season in which it was made, I might agree, but as it doesn't, it just can't meet the standard of being a "TV Movie" - it's three episodes of iCarly which feature the cast of Victorious as well, and is barely more than 66 minutes long without commercials. No different to "iFight Shelby Marx Part 1" and "iFight Shelby Marx Part 2". Bonusballs (talk) 16:53, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Nowhere did I say Wikipedia was a source – I said see supporting sourcing. In fact, the Newsday source calls it a movie twice. (Dunno why I included the TV Guide source – maybe because it was referred to as a "special"...) In any case, I stand by what I said – it is not a garden-variety "episode" of the series, and should be treated as a "special/movie" for all the reasons outlined. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:23, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@Geraldo Perez: But was it originally advertised as an "episode"? Or as a "special"? In this case, the distinction may actually be meaningful... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@IJBall: Looking at the supporting references in List of films broadcast by Nickelodeon, the major support for it being a film is that a Newsday reviewer called it that ("Mash-up movie of two kid hits, "iCarly" and "Victorious.""). TV Guide, the other reference closer to the show called it a special cross-over event ("The actresses were both happy to report that there was no blood shed making their latest special, the iCarly­­-­Victorious crossover event"). Amazon is selling it as a 1h9m episode at the normal episode price as part of the series. Evidence to me points more strongly to this being a long crossover episode. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:57, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Regardless of what's done at the episodes list (or the infobox template), I feel strongly that the lede of this article should refer to this as a "movie" as there is sourcing support for that, and there's a lot confusion if we start we referring to something like this as a "special" because we have IP editors who want to add every "special" that Nick has ever aired to List of films broadcast by Nickelodeon. There's a reason why I changed the lede of this article, and a whole bunch of other Nick-related articles when I did, because I was trying to avoid the mess that List of films broadcast by Nickelodeon had become... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

For me, Geraldo Perez hits the nail on the head - it's listed and sold as an episode of a TV series on Amazon. It's not a stand-alone movie, it is, at best, a feature-length episode (when broadcast in that format - other channels appear to show this as three individual episodes) but it's not a movie. Bonusballs (talk) 20:08, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

We've got sourcing calling it a movie. We follow sourcing here. Regardless what else is done with the episode list, etc., calling a movie in the lede can be sourced. If there is also sourcing calling it an "episode", that can be included as well. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:52, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Cast section

The cast list/section for this article should be reformatted so it follows a standard (MOS:TV) format – right now people who are "main cast"-credited are thrown in with people who were credited for supporting roles. And dividing the cast by the two shows as is done currently here is not supported by the movie's own crediting... I'm posting this now to see if there's any comment, but if there's not, I'm likely to revise the cast section here in the future. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)