Talk:I Saw Her Standing There

Tiffany

If we're gonna have this much stuff on the Tiffany cover single, including the other two tracks on the single, then I suggest, we spin it off into a separate article, titled I Saw Him Standing There. --Rob 12:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed.--Patthedog 13:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Done --Rob 14:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

References & sources

John, Shall I assume that if my UK edition of Miles / Lewisohn etc appears to support the US version then it’s ok to merge and just use whichever template is already in place? The ISBN will obviously differ though. Yes, Q is possibly a bit feeble being only a magazine, as you say, (it is "The Band Of The Century" edition BTW) but the contributions from fairly notable journalists make it worthwhile, I think. The same applies therefore, to MOJO. If they appear online then that makes a difference?--Patthedog 14:11, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: US vs. UK edition. I think you have to assume that there may be differences, and only merge if you have verified the citations using whichever edition you have, and change to that edition. In many cases, page numbers will differ. For "Recording Sessions", they may be exactly the same, but you can't assume that. If there's any doubt, leave citations that point to whichever edition was supplied by the original editor.

Re: Q magazine. I don't think the source is weak; I think the citation to it is weak. (see comments below about source quality and print vs. online) If you have the source, use a citation in this basic form:

{{cite journal
  |last=<article-author-surname>
  |first=<article-author-givenname>
  |title=<article-title>
  |journal=Q Magazine Collectors' Limited Edition
  |volume=<edition-volume-#>
  |pages=<page-number(s)>
  |date=<edition-date>
  |publisher=[[EMAP]]}}

Replace the stuff in < - > with the indicated data.

Re: online vs. offline. I don't think appearing online vs. in print denotes anything about the quality of a source. If I write down some drivel, then pay someone to print it, the information is still drivel. The same rule holds if I write some drivel and then put it on a web page. The author and publisher are the important factors.

Online stuff is easier to access if the publisher keeps the page online and doesn't change the URL. Printed stuff may be harder to access, but the publisher can't change it or delete it after its published. If an article is printed and available online, that's the best of both worlds: it's accessible online (at least now) and a printed copy will be available via good reference libraries, etc. In that case, cite both: {{cite journal}} supports a url= parameter.

On further thought, maybe that should be

{{cite journal
  |last=<article-author-surname>
  |first=<article-author-givenname>
  |title=<article-title>
  |journal=Q Magazine Collectors' Limited Edition
  |volume=<edition-volume-#>
  |pages=<page-number(s)>
  |date=<edition-date>
  |publisher=[[EMAP]]}}

or

{{cite journal
  |last=<article-author-surname>
  |first=<article-author-givenname>
  |title=<article-title>
  |journal=Q
  |volume=Collectors' Limited Edition
  |pages=<page-number(s)>
  |date=<edition-date>
  |publisher=[[EMAP]]}}

John Cardinal 16:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 03:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Reverted Beatles Bible Website.

The author of this site uses most of the published stuff that we (Wikipedia editors) all use, or could get access to. Rather than use third party citations, which is what happens when citing this website, we should actually get as close to a verifiable source as possible, (ie page numbers etc) and use that instead. --Patthedog (talk) 13:17, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Oldest Truants Ever?

1962 surely has Lennon at least 21 and hardly a truant? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.192.121 (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Good point! Will look into.--Patthedog (talk) 14:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

merge

Please note : There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/coverversions with the purpose of trying to establish a standard rule for merge/separate different versions of the same song. Please make known your opinions on the matter. --Richhoncho (talk) 21:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Rip Off

Did anybody else realize that the chorus of this song sounds just like the song Bonaparte's Retreat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R56tg5llqAw

listen from 0:40 - 0:54 --Mgmets5 (talk) 04:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Name

I find it rather surprising that this article does not mention the fact that the song was released under the name "Just Seventeen" in South Africa. Parlophone, 45-SPD 299, The Beatles, Just Seventeen b/w Roll Over Beethoven

Boothferry (talk) 03:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Song title of the side-1 was "JUST SEVENTEEN (I Saw Her Standing There)". First called for a single as Just Seventeen a little bit later after the concerts at the Star-Club. The only country keeping this name but sub-titled (I saw her...) had been South Africa.
http://www.yokono.co.uk/collection/beatles/s_africa/single/s_africa_single1.html#6-1
(I'm not sure how to interpret the above comment, appears to be by someone using English as a second language)

Agbneill (talk) 10:36, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

GA

I think this article is ready for GA review. I would do it, but I don't know how to. --Yeepsi (Talk to me!) 13:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Popular Culture?

Is there any objection to adding a "popular culture" section, for references that aren't full-blown covers? A particularly notable one occurs in the film "Rain Man", where Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise sing the first section of the song. It's a testament to the cultural impact of the song, and I'm sure others can be found. EJSawyer (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Relationship to "Seventeen Come Sunday"

The full McCartney quote from Schofield, 2012:

There was an old folk song about a guy who meets a girl on her 17th birthday. He tries to chat here up but she is having none of it. He end up having to admire her from a distance. Most of the Beatles' audience were young girls and 17 was, let's say, a significant age. So I borrowed from that old song to make my own — that and a dash of Sweet Little Sixteen.

Other information is taken from preceding paragraph in the book. The quote is undated. Onkelringelhuth (talk) 11:46, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

The Night That Changed America: A Grammy Salute to the Beatles

Sir Paul sang this tune at the 50th anniversary Grammy tribute night that changed america if someone is interested in updating this note to the page. Feb 09 2014

Iris Caldwell

Rory Storm, Book, Alan Caldwell sister claimed in his book that she is the girl in the McCartney written song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.80.157.6 (talk) 08:31, 17 August 2017 (UTC)