Talk:Iași International Airport

Henri Coandă International Airport name

The official name of Otopeni Airport is Henri Coandă International Airport since 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_IATA_code:_O

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_by_ICAO_code:_L#LR_-_Romania

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Romania

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eponyms_of_airports

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Coand%C4%83_International_Airport —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgvis (talk • contribs) 06:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

And your point is what exactly? In any case, this is the Iasi Airport article. What does a discussion about OTP have to do with it? Jasepl (talk) 06:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The point, obviously, is that, based on all these facts, the actual name is Bucharest-Henri Coandă and not Bucharest-Otopeni. It is not a singular case, during the time many other airports renamed their original names. I observe you do not have arguments, so please obey Wikipedia Project rules. (Rgvis (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 07:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC).

Again, this is the Iasi Airport article. What is the connection with Otopeni that your issue is being discussed here? Jasepl (talk) 11:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Please be advised that the official name for more than 5 years is Bucharest-Henri Coandă! It's time to be changed according to the reality. Thank you! For more references check http://www.otp-airport.ro/ Rgvis (talk) 06:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

See my comment above, from 19 June: "this is the Iasi Airport article. What is the connection with Otopeni that your issue is being discussed here?" If you feel the Bucharest airport name should be changed, then please bring your suggestion to the Bucharest Airport page. Jasepl (talk) 06:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The Bucharest airport name should not be changed because is already changed in Wikipedia page (for long time). So what we have to do, as contributors, is to rename it, according to the new situation. Rgvis (talk) 06:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Again, please bring your suggestion to the OTP talk page; this is the Iasi Airport article and NOT the plase to discuss your demand. Thanks. Jasepl (talk) 06:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

(cur) (prev) 05:45, 19 June 2009 Jasepl (talk | contribs) (3,661 bytes) (Sorry, if you have a problem with a name, please take it to the talk page. Until then, Otopeni stays.) (undo)

So, it was your demand :-) Anyway, if you have any evidence that the name is not Henri Coanda International Airport, please bring it to this page or to Henri Coanda International Airport page. Otherwise I consider this subject closed. Rgvis (talk) 06:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• Incorrect. Doesn't matter what you consider. Go argue at the OTP page not here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.247.221.146 (talk) 11:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
• no one's saying not to change the name from bucharest-otopeni to bucharest-whatever. but you cant make the change selectively only in the iasi airticle, it needs to be made in all destination lists. before doing that discuss it for consensus with other editors who look at all airports and airlines. once you have that then go crazy. and i know the name of the airport is officially changes but that is not the point. the point is that your discussing at the WRONG place. take your objection to the OTP/Coanda page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.169.19 (talk) 11:03, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

• also see this on your talk page

Your recent chain of edits and revers to the Iaşi International Airport article have been undone. If you have a problem with the way the Bucharest Airport name is written in the airline list, then please discuss it at the appropriate place. The Iaşi International Airport airticle is not the place to discuss that matter because it relates to the airport in Bucharest. Thank you. Please also bear in mind that Wikipedia follows the principle of commonality for the purpose of place names. As a result, the term used in the English Wikipedia for a place. person, object, or building may differ from its official name or its name in the local language. Each language variant of Wikipedia considers the most common terminology in that language to be supreme. There are several examples of this, for instance (Kiev/Kyiv, Ministro Pistarini/Ezezia, Burma/Myanmar, etc). That is not to say any one of the variants are wrong. In any event, please present your suggestion at the OTP discussion page, obtain editor consensus (which may not happen for the reasons of popularity outlined above), and then go ahead and make the change - across the board - if indeed you have consensus. 124.247.221.146 (talk) 06:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

• this isnt the place for your tantrum... discuss it at the bucharest airport page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.148.197 (talk) 19:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.169.19 (talk)

This message is for Jasepl: It is a nonsense what you are asking for. And it is illogical, too, for the next main reasons:

1. There is nothing to change here or on OTP page; I do not want to change the name of the airport, so it is useless to discuss a false subject at OTP page;

2. There are already pages that use official name Bucharest Henri Coandă name and pages with old name (Bucharest Otopeni); all changes are to be made during a period of time, that's why it is important to not sabotage! It will take time to change everywhere! Is it so difficult for you to understand? Why?

On the other hand, I've observed that you, Jasepl, used to be, many times, in conflict with many other users from Wikipedia.

Everyone here, with good faith, uses his (her) time to bring new informations and value to this very nice and interesting project named Wikipedia! So, please, if you can understand, try to be constructive and not destructive, as you are in these moments. Rgvis (talk) 11:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Third opinion

I came here from the WP:3O page. It's difficult to see the content of the objection to changing the name to Henri Coandă Airport. The appeal to the rules doesn't make much sense to me either, in general, discussions of this type can occur where ever they first come up. You might as well thrash it out here, than anywhere else. Please explain the content of your objection in detail, and forget about where to have the discussion. BTW, I have been through the airport and the only name I saw had "Henri Coandă" in it, but you folks are probably more expert on it than I. So please just focus on content and decide this rather minor issue between the two of you. Smallbones (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

• I have tried to explain to the user many times: "The Iaşi International Airport airticle is not the place to discuss that matter because it relates to the airport in Bucharest. Thank you. Please also bear in mind that Wikipedia follows the principle of commonality for the purpose of place names. As a result, the term used in the English Wikipedia for a place. person, object, or building may differ from its official name or its name in the local language. Each language variant of Wikipedia considers the most common terminology in that language to be supreme. There are several examples of this, for instance (Kiev/Kyiv, Ministro Pistarini/Ezezia, Burma/Myanmar, etc). That is not to say any one of the variants are wrong. In any event, please present your suggestion at the OTP discussion page, obtain editor consensus (which may not happen for the reasons of popularity outlined above), and then go ahead and make the change - across the board - if indeed you have consensus"

That's the way it works. No one's contesting the validity of the change. But making a selective change, when it has a larger impact, at the incorrect place, is not the way to do things.

In any case, using the Buenos Aires example, one of its airport is officially called "Ministro Pistarini Airport" and the article is titled the same. But in destination lists it's written as Buenos Aires-Ezeiza. That does not mean either is incorrect. Its just the way it's written, considering commonality in English.

124.247.221.146 (talk) 03:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Please sign in - it is difficult to keep straight who is who otherwise.

Also I will repeat - the editors are allowed to discuss it here - there is no rule that I know of that says discussions have to occur at specific places. This seems to be the most convenient for this page.

The phrase "Please also bear in mind that Wikipedia follows the principle of commonality for the purpose of place names" does not compute for me. Cite a policy or WP:MOS please. Since I can't figure out what you are talking about, I cannot respond. "Commonality in English" is not a common English phrase. Can you express this in a more idiomatic form?

I'll suggest that you simply ask the other editor to do a series of steps which do not include a) discuss this somewhere else, or b) do not make the name change. Smallbones (talk) 03:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

This case is similar to Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport#Renaming renamed, in 2004, from Montréal Dorval International Airport or Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport, renamed in 1974 from Roissy Airport (still occasionally used). That is what I have tried to explain for one month (with all evidences brought here).

I consider that the name, in this example discussed here, does not have anything to do with being an English term or not, nobody asked to use Bucureşti instead Bucharest while Henri Coandă is a person's name (the same for Pierre Elliott Trudeau or Charles de Gaulle).

I, also, agree that changes have to be made everywhere and not only here (and I can start doing this, there is no problem for me). Rgvis (talk) 09:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2015

|- | 2000 | 5.302 |  ?% | 499 |- | 2001 | 7.811 |  ?% | 510 |- | 2002 | 9.858 |  ?% | 880 |- | 2003 | 25.106 |  ?% | 1291 |- | 2004 | 27.574 |  ?% | 1405 |- Mbodale (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:48, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

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