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Iain Durrant
editI notice that there's a separate but distinct Wikipedia entry under Iain Durrant. ItaloCalvino 17:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Just a redirect just now, unless someone has recently changed it. Archibald99 17:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I removed the line about Durrant not taking charge of any games as caretaker manager. BBC Sport is reporting (Fri 5 Jan 1pm) that he will be in charge for Sunday's cup game against Dunfermline. Replaced with a more generic line instead. - Niall McG
1987
editAs I have written twice now in the comment field, the incident where Durrant was fined for his sectarian chanting was a completely seperate incident from the one in which McCoist assaulted the youth. Please refrain from disruptive edits which conflate the two. Thanks, 90.200.240.178 (talk) 14:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- so how about you alter the article to reflect that, rather than include information unrelated to the person in question, along with numerous pov slants. Monkeymanman (talk) 14:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'll do so happily. But before I am able to do so properly you'll have to tell me which information you think is "unrelated" and/or a "pov slant". I will also require an undertaking that you will not disruptively revert to your erroneous version again. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- ‘50-50’, ‘minor role’, ‘unlikely’, ‘failure to surpass Celtic’, ‘finally derailed’. These are all unneeded pov slants. The information regarding McCoist and McMinn are unrelated to durrant seeing as he was not guilty of assault. Monkeymanman (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- He wasn't found not guilty, it was not proven. Obviously, they are different. If not proven was not guilty there would be no need to have invented not proven. Any edit suggesting he was found not guilty, rather than not proven, is therefore misleading and an abuse of the sources.
- ‘50-50’, ‘minor role’, ‘unlikely’, ‘failure to surpass Celtic’, ‘finally derailed’. These are all unneeded pov slants. The information regarding McCoist and McMinn are unrelated to durrant seeing as he was not guilty of assault. Monkeymanman (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'll do so happily. But before I am able to do so properly you'll have to tell me which information you think is "unrelated" and/or a "pov slant". I will also require an undertaking that you will not disruptively revert to your erroneous version again. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 14:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Similarly, since McCoist and McMinn were involved in the incident it would be misleading to leave them out, making it appear Durrant was acting alone. If you wish to restore the "pov slants" back the other way then be my guest, but find a source this time. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 15:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- At the end of the day he was not found ‘guilty’ of anything. Having information about third parties who were also not found ‘guilty’ of anything is inappropriate for this persons article. By all means take to dispute resolution if you think it should be included. Monkeymanman (talk) 15:37, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Similarly, since McCoist and McMinn were involved in the incident it would be misleading to leave them out, making it appear Durrant was acting alone. If you wish to restore the "pov slants" back the other way then be my guest, but find a source this time. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 15:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Exactly, he was found not proven. And then fined two week's wages by his club. In the interests of fairness and accuracy we need to be clear on this. As for his "third parties" (?), McCoist was found guilty and fined by the club. McMinn was found not proven but, according to himself, he was kicked out of the club after a further, subsequent incident. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 16:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Was Durrant found guilty? What does the actions of McCoist and McMinn have to do with Ian Durrant? Monkeymanman (talk) 16:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- No, he was found not proven. We should say so. McCoist and McMinn were involved in the same incident. We should report the incident accurately and describe the outcome. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 16:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Was Durrant found guilty? What does the actions of McCoist and McMinn have to do with Ian Durrant? Monkeymanman (talk) 16:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Exactly, he was found not proven. And then fined two week's wages by his club. In the interests of fairness and accuracy we need to be clear on this. As for his "third parties" (?), McCoist was found guilty and fined by the club. McMinn was found not proven but, according to himself, he was kicked out of the club after a further, subsequent incident. 90.200.240.178 (talk) 16:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)