Talk:Ibn Gabirol Street

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jerusalem

This is also the name of a street in Jerusalem - information which was removed for some reason. If this page is only about Tel Aviv, then the name should be amended to Ibn Gabirol Street (Tel Aviv). --Gilabrand (talk) 17:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Gila, I did not remove the info, but agree that there is no need to mention a specific one other than Tel Aviv here. If you want to list 2 or more Ibn Gabirol streets (or even make an article on the one in Jerusalem) the name change is an excellent idea, if you also make a disambig page. Regards, gidonb (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

pronunciation

although the correct hebrew pronunciation is Ibn Gvirol (not Gabirol), locals tend to call it Even Gvirol. however, the local pronunciation is not 'erroneous' in the sense that they confuse the Arabic 'Ibn' for the Hebrew 'Even', but rather, because Even slides off the Hebrew tongue more easily (Arabic does not have a 'v'). in that sense, the 'Even Gvirol' pronunciation is like the way that many locals pronounce the names of their cities or locations in technically 'incorrect' ways which reflect speed and slang. i think someone should point that out instead of dismissing 'Even Gvirol' as erroneous. (I am writing this as one of the very locals that I have described.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.220.72 (talk) 10:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, Ibn Gabirol, and not Gvirol, is correct. Secondly, the pronunciation Even Gvirol is indeed erroneous. 'Even' is not a Hebraicized version of Ibn, rather, Ben is. They are phonetically similar, but the meaning is completely different. Even means stone, and some people used that precisely with this meaning (as Epson pointed out with his newest article for example, Even Shoshan, which is Hebrew for Rosenstein). -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 10:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)