Talk:Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt

Greek Origins - article probably wrong on the details and almost certainly on the implications

According to the article, "the rumor of Ibrahim's non-Muslim origins is said to have been made up by a French consul who had been insulted by the pasha." Ibrahim and his father emerged from the Mamluk system, which means that they almost by definition had 'non-Muslim origins'; Mamluk means 'owned'; Mamluks started out as slaves, generally from Christian families as I understand the system, and were bought and raised as Muslims. Very similar to the Janissary system used in Istanbul in this sense. There would certainly be no shame in having a 'non-Muslim origin', and indeed it is extremely likely that most of his peers shared a similar origin. I haven't looked at the cited source material for this sentence, but I rather suspect it should be removed from the article. -jackbrown (talk) 19:25, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Mameluks

Mameluks wasn't former christian slaves, they was always muslim slaves of non Arabian background. The Mameluks was native turks and circassians. See Mameluks in Egypt.

Emine of Nusretli

Biography: Emine of Nusretli was a native ottoman turkish lady, born at Nusretli in 1770 and died in Cairo 1824. She was the widow of Ottoman Turk Ali Bey Serezli, and a daughter of Ottoman Turk Major Ali Agha of Nusretli, and Granddaugther of the ottoman Turk Governor of Drama: Khalil Ahmad Agha.

She had no christian background as a slave as it is claimed here in this Article.

Ibrahim pasha

In many Books there is claimed, he was the stepson of Muhammad Ali The Great Pasha. Only Y-DNA test of living male desecendants of Muhammad Ali Pasha the Great who traces back to his other sons and sons of Ibrahim pasha, can proof this claim. I believe, that Ibrahim pasha was the real son and the first born of Muhammad Ali Pasha the Great.

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Ottoman Turkish

I am wondering why in the Muhammed Ali of Egypt article the ottoman script is used while for his sons the Latin script is used. Aren't they all supposed to be officially part of the Ottoman empire? Please let me know if I there is something I don't understand. Otherwise, I will change the naming convention to be consistent with that of the article of Muhammed Ali of Egypt. 109.171.218.114 (talk) 22:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)