Talk:Icarus Falls

"Rainberry" next single?

See source posted at Talk:Rainberry (song) re: "Rainberry" as single released on November 29. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 19:46, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Vocal producer an album producer?

A vocal producer does not get credited in the infobox, per this parameter, which states: Enter the name of the person(s) credited with the record production. This is someone who oversees the recording process and is usually different from the artist or songwriter. For multiple entries, see Notes[2] for details. Also, they should be credited in alphabetical order, as most lists on Wikipedia are compiled as such — especially in infoboxes — and the album infobox should not be any exception to this. Groups list each member alphabetically, per surname or moniker... albums should not be an exception to this practice. livelikemusic talk! 21:55, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Should "bonus tracks" be kept in the track listing?

I'm opening this discussion for Livelikemusic, who has now removed the wording "bonus tracks" twice from the collapsed Japanese edition section in the track listing (and been reverted). This template was added by the user Andvip, and the whole of that user's edit was not reverted or taken issue with, only a selected part of it—I think if your selective removal of part of somebody's edit is taken issue with, it's on you in most cases to get consensus for the change. I believe we should be keeping "bonus tracks" appended to a heading unless we're listing the entirety of an edition—which we have not done; we have listed only the different tracks the Japanese edition adds. "Bonus tracks" are not only appended to the end of an album, which Livelikemusic has stated, so I believe it is appropriate denotation. What do others think: should "bonus tracks" be kept in the track listing heading? Note: This is not a formal consensus or a request for comment, so I am not wording as neutrally as I could. Ss112 05:57, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Split track list into two discs?

So it's clear that the CD is being released across two discs, but online services (Spotify, iTunes/Apple, Google Play, etc.) do not split the album into two like Drake's Scorpion was. It seemed a little telling to me that there's an interlude to denote the split of the two 'halves' to the album, but this seems to me to betray the intention of the album to be across two discs, as generally, discs wouldn't intend with a track titled 'Interlude'. However, there are sources calling it a double-disc set. Cosmpolitan claims that the first half is Icarus and the second half is Falls (is this backed up by something Zayn said?). Same with ABC News Radio Online, who says it's "designed as a double album" here. Rap-Up also talks about the sides and calls it a "double-disc set" here. So as an informal consensus, what do we all think, should the track listing be split into two sides/discs? Ss112 13:57, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I understand what do you mean by that but not only that I found the 2-disk version on Amazon, I also found it on CDJapan as the japan bonus track for the individual 2-disk version. In my opinion, if we kept that version that way for example, Good Guy is Track 14 on the digital version, while Dusk Till Dawn is Track 14 for the Japanese version of the album, some readers might find it confusing and some can change Dusk Till Dawn to Track 28 like someone has done before like for this example, which is not true. Raritydash (talk) 17:33, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Also I forgot to add that about what you say before, not only that Drake's Scorpion does split the album into two for the CD version and online services, it also happened to Carrie Underwood's Greatest Hits: Decade Number 1. So since I see that the CD version does split while the online service doesn't, I don't know what to do about it. Maybe put it on the notes section about the CD split and leave it as it is? Raritydash (talk) 02:30, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

"Still Got Time" and "Dusk Till Dawn"

Should these two tracks be listed as the first two singles? They're not technically non-album singles since they appear on the Japan edition of the album. They are listed as being from Icarus Falls on the main Zayn Malik discography page. I've seen other pages list bonus tracks as singles and some not. Anyone else have an opinion on this? Benjichilders (talk) 15:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

For the time being, I changed those two singles to say "Non-album single" on the main discography article.Benjichilders (talk) 16:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

• I disagree. We've excluded "Fefe" as a single from the Queen article, "I Have Questions" and "Real Friends" as singles from Camila, also the Dua Lipa situation where she reissued the album with every song she featured on but they're excluded as singles. This is also the exact same situation as Dangerous Woman, where Focus appears only on the Japanese edition and is excluded as a single. "Still Got Time" and "Dusk Till Dawn" were released in a completely different calendar year, just because they were tacked onto an obscure Japanese edition of the album for the extra SPS doesn't make them singles from Icarus Falls in my opinion. Will wait for others to weigh in though.--NØ 15:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I agree with "MaranoFan" that they were not promoted as singles for this album. Raritydash (talk) 02:31, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Actually, "Still Got Time", "Dusk Till Dawn" and "Let Me" were all announced as the first single from the album per the press releases on the RCA Records website. Benjichilders (talk) 22:31, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

That's the thing, they couldn't all have been the lead single since only one single can "lead" the album. The fact that these press releases called all of them the lead single at some point proves them unreliable.--NØ 08:02, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

"Satisfaction"

I am starting to collect sources at Talk:Satisfaction (Zayn song). ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:55, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

"Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)" interpolation

If sources are needed for the "Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)" interpolation:

• https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/zayn-icarus-falls/
• https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/zayn-malik-icarus-falls-new-album-stream-track-listing-what-title-mean-lyrics-latest-a8683071.html
• https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/zayns-lack-of-direction

---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:26, 2 February 2019 (UTC)