Talk:Ichneumonoidea

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>Despite looking formidable, the ovipositor does not deliver a sting like many wasps or bees. It can be used to bore into and lay eggs inside rotten wood.<

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I added a paragraph on the parasitic relationship between the wasp and the host butterfly, Phengaris rebeli. NK2015 (talk) 12:49, 31 Oct 2013 (UTC)

Is this sentence referring strictly to Megarhyssa? It is my understanding that some Ichneumons do in fact sting. Some clarification would be helpful.

I believe the sentence just refers to the ovipositor itself, as according to its name (ovi- meaning egg, -positor as in deposit), it's just used to deposit eggs. Allie 14:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I can certainly confirm that the wasp certainly does sting! I was stung last night and am very sore in the area today. The sting did not produce a welp or irritation as other wasps' stings do.

Considering ovipositor and stinger are one, I'd find it difficult to imagine that they could do both at once. In ants and bees, the queen is the only one who can lay eggs and the only one who can't sting...

But then again, if this ovipositor can BORE INTO WOOD i should hope it could sting a human.

According to the Queen bee article, the queen is the only bee that can sting more than once. 206.53.197.12 (talk) 03:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Picture with the red body

This looks nothing like most images of ichneumons, with their long abdomon and ovipositors. Is this really an ichneumon wasp? —Ben FrantzDale 00:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Darwin

Why did he have a problem with parasitism in nature? Isn't that kind of an emotional reaction to have? I mean, 'grisly'? The bible clearly indicates that, since the Fall, nature is quite cruel, and everything kills everything. Hell, God regularly used to smite people with BOILS. A little parasitic insect is hardly uncharacteristic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 14:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

• What does Darwin have to do with Ichneumonoidea anyways? That sections is completely off topic. Might be more on topic in the Charles Darwin article. Misosoup7 (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Scary

If you have seen the bug, they are scary. But the Ichneumonoidea Fly female, has a long stinger but it's not used for stinging. You may think that this fly is alien or unusual, and it is unusual but only looks alien. The female lays her eggs they are deadly unlike there harmless parents. They live in North America, Europe, and Asia. They may look scary but they keep the pesky bugs, like flies away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.112.164 (talk) 03:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Where did this thing get its name?154.20.194.233 (talk) 04:58, 16 June 2010 (UTC) ...

Interesting stories about these wasps that should be included.

There is so much more about these wasps that really should be included in this article, and it is fairly easy to find references to all of these all over the Net.

The ones that can bore through wood have a hardened tip on the ovipostor (much like a tungsten-carbide tipped drill bit used to drill through masonry) to allow them to bore straight through hard wood. The normal material of the exoskeleton by itself, tough though it is, would not be hard enough to do this.

These species also have "microphone" like structures in their feet that allow them to hear their host insect inside the wood or fruit or whatever.

This by itself is not enough, they can also use these "microphones" to guide - by sound, in three dimensions - the tip of the ovipostor, so that it can lay the egg directly into the body of the host insect.

They also inject a paralysing poison into the host so that it is paralysed but not dead. Very important for a wasp that lives in the hot desert to keep the host alive so that it does not rot in the high temperatures.

Possibly off-topic but maybe not too far, these wasps, or more specifically these breeding behaviours, are what inspired the critters in the "Alien" movies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.46.43 (talk) 06:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Ichneumonidae

Bold text There is a more extensive article on this subject in Wikipedia under the name of Ichneumonoidae (the correct spelling), so I'd suggest removing the one called ichneumonoidea or incorporating it under the other name.Robbmar (talk) 20:49, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Tree of Life website has an entry for "Ichneumonoidea" (link), but none for the spelling you suggest. azwaldo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Typo in the Introduction

They're said to be Parasitic wasps when they are parasitoid.

That's about it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.114.252.83 (talk • contribs)

Done. Mindmatrix 13:17, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Etymology

Pretty sure it's based on the mythological ichneumon, which is believed to be a fantasticization of the mongoose. It would burrow under dragon's scales and eat them from the inside.50.194.115.156 (talk) 18:38, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia relies on verifiable sources. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:59, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Okay, and? The article is not using a verifiable source as it is.50.194.115.156 (talk) 19:14, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-10991-2_2 Here's that they were named by Pliny, who describes the folkloric ichneumon elsewhere in his work.50.194.115.156 (talk) 19:38, 30 August 2019 (UTC)